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Comment: Re:hero worship (Score 1) 242

by Man On Pink Corner (#47365545) Attached to: Disappointed Woz Sells His "Worthless" Galaxy Gear Watch

Probably so. Mahatma Gandhi advocated fighting the Nazis with a one-two knockout punch of surrender and mass suicide. Mother Theresa was a galactic douche with PR talents that you might expect from the love child of Oprah Winfrey and Gandalf. And FDR, well, about the best you can say about FDR is that he made World War II look like a lucky break for the US economy.

Woz? Um, well, I heard he was caught doing 115 MPH in a Prius. That's about the only bad thing anyone has ever said about him. Personally, I would have given him a trophy rather than a ticket, but that's probably why I'm not a cop.

Comment: Re:Price Wars (Score 3, Insightful) 364

It is always a temptation to an armed and agile nation
    To call upon a neighbour and to say: --
"We invaded you last night--we are quite prepared to fight,
    Unless you pay us cash to go away."

And that is called asking for Dane-geld,
    And the people who ask it explain
That you've only to pay 'em the Dane-geld
    And then you'll get rid of the Dane!

It is always a temptation for a rich and lazy nation,
    To puff and look important and to say: --
"Though we know we should defeat you, we have not the time to meet you.
    We will therefore pay you cash to go away."

And that is called paying the Dane-geld;
    But we've proved it again and again,
That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld
    You never get rid of the Dane.

It is wrong to put temptation in the path of any nation,
    For fear they should succumb and go astray;
So when you are requested to pay up or be molested,
    You will find it better policy to say: --

"We never pay any-one Dane-geld,
    No matter how trifling the cost;
For the end of that game is oppression and shame,
    And the nation that pays it is lost!"

Comment: Re:Ellsberg got a fair trial (Score 1) 519

Geez, a guy can't come out in favor of fair trials without getting called an authoritarian. Who knew?

OK, how about "concern troll?" Does that fit any better than "authoritarian?"

As has been pointed out numerous times, the days when someone in Snowden's position could get any semblance of a fair trial are long gone.

Comment: Re:Ellsberg got a fair trial (Score 1) 519

I think Snowden's 'crime' was unfortunately necessary because there was no other way to call attention to the government's Constitutional abuses, past, present and future. But here's the problem with civil-rights era analogies: Rosa Parks, MLK Jr., and other prominent dissidents stuck around and took the heat. They spent time in jails that probably made Guantanamo look like Club Med by comparison. They were attacked by police dogs, sprayed with fire hoses, and were generally treated like shit. In many cases they watched their friends and compatriots die violently.

What they did not do was haul ass to Hong Kong.

Now, I can see why Snowden did that, and I certainly would have done it, myself. Why stick around for the disproportionate punishment that would follow an Espionage Act indictment? Snowden has no reason to believe he would even be given a trial, much less a fair one. He is no different from Anwar Al-Awlaki in this administration's eyes, being a US citizen who (we're told) stepped a little too far out of line for the judicial system to handle. Snowden just has a whiter sounding name, that's all. I don't expect him to martyr himself.

Nevertheless, the fact remains that he did flee to the far ends of the Earth, which isn't a valid act of civil disobedience as we know it from earlier eras. Right or wrong, he can never get that lost moral authority back. So it's best not to defend him by comparing him to Civil Rights figures who faced the consequences of their illegal acts.

Comment: Re:Ellsberg got a fair trial (Score 5, Interesting) 519

I happen to believe in trials. So did the founding fathers.

Great, that makes three of us. We can start with Clapper and Alexander, since they're easy to apprehend and Snowden isn't. We don't even have to extradite them from Russia or Hong Kong. We can send some Federal marshals to pick them up after breakfast tomorrow. Sound good to you?

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