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Comment: Re:Why use T1's? (Score 1) 295

MPLS is cool. However in an MPLS network, you have 1) P routers (core routers), 2) CPE ("client premise equipment"), and 3) PE routers (that connect the P routers and the CPEs). The CPE doesn't need to be and indeed shouldn't be an MPLS-capable router. In a five-console library a sub-$1000 Cisco 1800 for CPE would be a perfect fit.

Comment: Re:That hurts my stomach a little... (Score 1) 295

Our Cisco vendor had bid on the same job and not only came in with a far, far more expensive piece of equipment but told us that we would need a CCN-something for five hours to program the thing.

Sure, but if you have 1000 of them you'll need at least one competent full-time tech anyway, and I can guarantee that someone experienced (i.e. knowing Cisco) who has 1000 client routers will prefer the 1000 routers to be Cisco. That's not the question, actually.

To get back on topic, he'd prefer $500 Ciscos, or $1000 Ciscos. The $22,000 Ciscos can go route the university campuses they were designed for instead of taking up space and ELECTRICITY in 1-5 console libraries. Say two or even four each, but I doubt there are 250 universities in WV, am I right?

Some guy interviewed linked from the TFA said it was buying Lamborghinis. The comparison is not quite correct. Instead of buying bog-standard five-seater consumer cars, these people bought new 18-wheeler long-haul Kenworth trucks with three seats and paid extra to have two beds in the back of the coach, justifying the choice by saying maybe one day they'd need more luggage space. Maybe they got a good price for what they bought, but it was a little bit overkill for a thousand parents to bring their kids to school.

Comment: Re:That hurts my stomach a little... (Score 1) 295

Honestly, $22K isn't that bad for a decent edge router. It looks to me like a Cisco 7603, so with a service contract, that's not really that bad of a deal.

Article says Cisco 3945, which at least is marketed as a client-side router. If they're supposed to go to Gbps fiber, a case could be made. It would be full of holes, of course.

Incidentally, searching for cisco 3945 on the net gives https://supportforums.cisco.com/thread/2146460 which seems to be the reporter behind TFA looking for background.

Comment: Re:they got them with mark up and car like add one (Score 1) 295

State officials requested that the devices include a "T1 interface card" that would allow schools, libraries and other sites to use the high-capacity routers with their existing copper-wire T1 broadband connections -- while waiting to hook up to fiber optic cable.

The adapter cards added $1.08 million to the purchase price.

Instead of, say, keeping the old routers, and buying a Cisco 1800 for less than $1000? There HAS to be a illegal commission somewhere in there... $22 million stupid?

Comment: Re:An Idea.. (Score 1) 291

by Lorens (#39387827) Attached to: Ask Slashdot: How To Give IT Presentations That Aren't Boring?

Make it easy for your boss to say, "I guess public speaking isn't his thing." You'll likely never again be asked to do a big presentation.

And never get promoted either, because a great part of a high-level job is presenting your analysis, your point of view, your decisions, and the options you or the attendees have, and doing it in as clear and engaging a manner as possible. In fact I could even argue that in managers it's even more important than being good at the underlying job, because managers have technical guys to do the drudge work.

Comment: Re:What else did he expect? (Score 1) 777

Sounds to me like social services just found the guy's name involved in a child porn investigation and assume he's dangerous.

The days when Computers Don't Argue are coming!

It's the story of the guy sued in small claims court about payment for a book. The book is "Kidnapped" by Robert Louis Stevenson. The computer misfiles it in major crimes, and the guy finds himself on death row for kidnapping Mr Stevenson -- after Mr Stevenson is deceased.

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