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Comment: Re:Carcinogenic (Score 1) 312

Thats some good sleuthing on me being a shill, with one problem: that quote was pulled verbatim from wikipedia.

It also sources the National Library of Medicine, among a number of other fairly reputable bodies. The statement you seem to have issues with-- the ppm one-- is sourced here:

Great to see the knives come out when someone throws out publicly available research tho.

Comment: Re:Correlation != causation (Score 1) 312

Im not sure I have the gist of your argument, but heres what I'm getting:

1) Chemical that is used everywhere, and also by the fracking industry, is found in our groundwater.
2) The source is unclear.
3) The chemical has been generally approved for use in food
4) Sometimes the FDA is wrong.

Ergo, the fracking industry is at fault for releasing a chemical that is toxic, and we're all at serious health risk.

Let me know if / where I missed a step, but if thats the entirety of it, it seems like a pretty weak argument.

Comment: Re:A year later (Score 2) 296

by LordLimecat (#49621085) Attached to: Ubuntu 15.04 Received Well By Linux Community

You seem to think that anyone who thinks the complaints are overblown are part of some systemd fanclub.

Im not a full-time linux admin, Im just an observer noting that Red Hat and Debian retain their customer base despite the complaints that systemd is ruining the world, and we havent heard widespread reports of systemd induced system failures. That kind of makes me think that the complaints are vastly overstated and that the drama is unnecessary.

If things really are that bad with systemd, I would have expected to see a new, highly popular distro pop up in the last several months (or in the next few months) that blows Red Hat and Debian away-- or perhaps to see CentOS split off and do their own thing. We arent seeing that, which again makes me question the "sky is falling" claims.

Comment: Re:A year later (Score 1) 296

by LordLimecat (#49621055) Attached to: Ubuntu 15.04 Received Well By Linux Community

If every major garage company started making garages a certain way, and a handful of people on some garage enthusiast forums started complaining that they were doing it completely wrong and the engineering priciniples sucked, I might be a little skeptical. Because, you know, if that were true, you'd have a few outcomes:

  1) there would be widespread reports of the failures of said garage engineering principles
  2) those companies would start losing customers en masse
  3) a new competitor eschewing those changes would pop up and become incredibly popular as they gave people what they wanted.

Im not seeing that happen with systemd, which leads me to believe that either the complaints are niche, or overstated, or irrelevant, and that in any case Red Hat and Debian arent "doing it wrong" as badly as everyone on slashdot says they are.

Comment: Re:Carcinogenic (Score 1) 312

It is severely disappointing when the discussion around something turns out to be highly misleading based on a simple wikipedia search:

2-Butoxyethanol has a low acute toxicity, with LD50 of 2.5 g/kg in rats.[3] Laboratory tests by the U. S. National Toxicology Program have shown that only sustained exposure to high concentrations (100-500 ppm) of 2-butoxyethanol can cause adrenal tumors in animals.

Comment: Some perspective on a one-sided summary (Score 1) 312

Before reading any further, I thought it would be a good idea to see what 2-butoxyethanol was. According to wikipedia, in addition to fracking...

2-Butoxyethanol is a solvent for paints and surface coatings, as well as cleaning products and inks. Products that contain 2-butoxyethanol include acrylic resin formulations, asphalt release agents, firefighting foam, leather protectors, oil spill dispersants, degreaser applications, photographic strip solutions, whiteboard cleaners, liquid soaps, cosmetics, dry cleaning solutions, lacquers, varnishes, herbicides, latex paints, enamels, printing paste, and varnish removers, and silicone caulk. Products containing this compound are commonly found at construction sites, automobile repair shops, print shops, and facilities that produce sterilizing and cleaning products. It is the main ingredient of many home, commercial and industrial cleaning solutions. Since the molecule has both non-polar and polar ends, butoxyethanol is useful for removing both polar and non-polar substances, like grease and oils. It is also approved by the U.S. FDA to be used as direct and indirect food additives, which include antimicrobial agents, defoamers, stabilizers, and adhesives

Probably worth knowing before getting into a debate on whether it is fracking's fault, or how its poisoning us (from that last sentence: probably not).

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