Private Online Reserve Notes!
I have no idea how to implement it, but good things should have good names!
Private Online Reserve Notes!
I have no idea how to implement it, but good things should have good names!
Apparently he also would have no idea that firing as the motorcade was approaching the turn was about 1000x easier a shot. The ground was level, it wasn't too close to the building so as to make it an uncomfortable shot, and he'd have had enough time for 5 or 6 shots easily (though he'd only need 1). Seriously, check out the game "JFK Reloaded" which actually gives a good perspective on the view from the spot where Oswald supposedly took the shot. It's ridiculously easier to take the shot as the motorcade is approaching. Taking the shot when Oswald supposedly did is insane; the angle is terrible, elevation is changing, direction is changing, there are trees in the way; it's just awful. Shoot straight on and you get a clear, level, easy shot that just about anyone with minimal training could make.
The Model S costs $62k base price for a car with lots of stuff already in it. If you deck the thing out going for top-end across the board, you can get it to $100k. Just like you can take a base Yukon at $47k and get it to $74k when you deck the thing out.
And you have no idea how comfortable or roomy the inside of a Model X is because unless you work for Tesla or are one of a small number press people who've gotten to sit in one, you've never seen the thing. You might guess at how comfortable or roomy it is, but you don't actually know, do you?
And I didn't compare them; YOU did.
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Any idea on price? If they could build and sell that for under $50K, I'd be interested in one as a second SUV.
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Price is going to be slightly higher than the Model S, which probably puts it around $65k after the Federal tax incentive.
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The Model X might seat 7, but it doesn't do it with as much room or as much comfort as a Yukon XL does. Comparing the two is simply not being honest about the situation.
Do you even read your own posts? You certainly don't read mine.
Yukon XL Denali MSRP is $60,985. You didn't fully equip it.
I did, however (on the website), and I came up with a $73,245 MSRP.
And yes, the Federal (and state) tax credits do count. And no, they don't "just have to collect it from you somewhere else"; it's there to act as an incentive to purchasing EVs. They also don't get it from you on the gas taxes. And why should they? When you're spending $3,643/yr average on gas alone for that Yukon XL Denali, they don't really need to get anything out of the EV owners.
By the way, with gas, maintenance, and repair costs, that Yukon XL Denali fully equipped (really fully equipped) actually runs about $98,151. $18k in gas, $4800 maintenance, $2k repairs. (source: Vincentric) Those same costs for the Model S? $3k in 'fuel', $3k in maintenance, $1k in repairs. End result? Fully equipped Yukon XL Denali after 5 years: $98,151. Model S: $107,000. Difference? $9k. Unless you buy it in any of the states that offer additional incentives (like GA, WV, IL, CO, CA, etc), in which case that difference is more like $4k. In other words, about 4% difference in price for fully-equipped TCO. However, Model S and Yukon XL Denali without options? TCO swings hard into the Model S's favor.
All that said, the Model S isn't up against the Yukon; it's up against the Audi A8, Mercedes S-Class, etc. And it's beating them in sales.
This is the problem when comparing specs to reality.
Calling the Model S a 7 passenger vehicle and putting it anywhere remotely in the same dept as the Yukon is just being dishonest.
The Yukon actually seats 7 people in reasonable comfort, either 6 adults or 4 adults and 3 children fit very nicely, plus room left over.
Speaking of dishonest, I didn't simply say that the Model S seats 7. I specifically stated that it seats 5 adults plus two children. The Model X seats 7 full sized, living, breathing, adults with plenty of room for their stuff. Do you need me to look up the video from the unveiling for you so you can see for yourself? It's not that difficult to find. As for the Model S, if you have the two children seated in the rear-facing seats, you won't have much space for extra stuff. That said, it's a sedan with more space for people and things than anything else it's up against.
How much does the Model S tow? How much storage space does it have when 7 people are in it? How long does it take to refill the battery? What is the off road ability?
You likely shouldn't be towing with an EV, much like you shouldn't be with most gas cars or SUVs. Trucks are built for that; most other consumer gasoline vehicles are not. I can probably tow quote a bit with my heavy sport car's extremely powerful engine, but it'll pretty much destroy the car doing it. The same thing goes for off-roading, except that you now have to exclude most trucks as well. Sure, if we're talking about level ground, and cut grass, but much else and you're looking at a small subset of jeeps, trucks, and an even smaller group of SUVs actually designed to do it. Throwing a lift kit in there doesn't do anything for the fact that the engine was never designed or tuned to handle the conditions of real off-roading. EVs don't have to be all things to all people.
As for storage space, the Model S will have little when you use the two rear-facing child seats. The Model X will have plenty even with 7 adults in it. As for the battery refill, at any Tesla Supercharge station (which are free and will always be free per Tesla), you get 50% battery charge in 20 minutes. For the smaller battery, that's about 110 miles. For the larger, that's about 150 miles. 40 minutes brings it to 80%. You can also opt for a battery quick-swap which takes 90 seconds and gets you a fully charged battery. That costs $60 - $80 and you can either pick up your own battery on the way back or pay the difference in value between your old one and the one you picked up (based on the battery conditions). I see that at current average gas prices, that Yukon XL costs about $110/tank and I'll bet it takes about 2.5 - 3 times longer to fill up than the 90-second battery swap.
The web site you linked to is dishonest, it says "zero emissions. zero compromises."
That is a lie. There are plenty of emissions both during production of the car and during production of the electricity it consumes. There are also compromises in both the cost of the car as well as in having to wait hours and hours for the battery to recharge.
Actually, it's quite honest. The vehicle produces no emissions. It doesn't state that the production is done without emissions. Nothing is constructed without emissions. It also doesn't state that the source of the electricity is zero emissions. There's no way to know that; it depends entirely on where you are and to what it's connected. In any event, the vehicle produces zero emissions while it's driving. Should you choose to charge it at Tesla stations (for free), those run off solar power, so you're even charging it for zero emissions (in terms of the OPERATIONS of the charging station).
There car costs money, and I'm not sure what your complaint is there. It's priced against Audi's A8, BMW's 7 series, etc. People interested in those kinds of vehicles aren't compromising anything buying a Model S. In fact, they're getting a vastly safer vehicle by any measure. As for the "wait hours and hours for the battery to recharge", you're either speaking from ignorance or flat lying. It doesn't take hours and hours for the battery to charge. In fact, if you plug it in at home (and any owner will do just that), you'll start each day with a 'full tank'. No other type of vehicle does that. Further, if you're on the road, you have the option to either charge it for 20 minutes for 50% charge or swap the battery for 100% in 1.5 minutes. That's quicker than a gasoline car's tank is filled. Neither involves waiting hours for anything.
Maybe you're ok with that. No problem, more power to you. If it fits for you, go buy one. But don't knock me when I tell you it doesn't work for me.
The comparison to the Model X is just as bad. It is basicly a taller version of the Model S, it doesn't tow, it doesn't go off-road, and it doesn't have the interior room of the Yukon XL.
That doesn't make it a bad car, it just means that it gives up something to get something else.
I'm not knocking you for saying it doesn't work for you - that's a perfectly valid statement. I'm knocking you for stating reasons which differ from reality. If you need something that tows and goes offroad, you don't want to buy a Model S or a Model X. In fact, you probably don't want to buy a Yukon or most other consumer vehicles on the road today. There's a small subset of trucks and an even smaller subset of SUVs actually built to perform both towing and off-roading tasks. Certainly plenty of people abuse their vehicles to do those things when they shouldn't (and those same people could choose to do the same with a Model S or a Model X), but that doesn't change the fact that much of the rest of the arguments against buying a decent EV are based in fiction.
This is typically what happens any time a discussion of EVs comes up anywhere: you get tons of people coming out of the woodwork telling you that EVs will never work because they drive 350 miles to work each way every day off road over mountains and through several hours of traffic in blizzard conditions while hauling 9 passengers and their luggage, and towing a boat, a car, and 6 jetskis, and they always need to make seventeen stops on their trek home after work to drop the kids off at soccer, football, baseball, gymnastics, calisthenics, modeling shoots, cheerleading, and karate classes, and visit the grocery store, the butcher, the baker, and the candlestick maker.
Somehow, I get the sense that perhaps some of them are being a little disingenuous about the whole thing.
It'll cost slightly more than the Model S, so figure about $65k after the Federal tax incentive. If you live in a state that also does tax incentives for EVs, you'll see that come down a bit more.
Price is going to be slightly higher than the Model S, which probably puts it around $65k after the Federal tax incentive. If you live in certain states (like CA) where there are separate tax incentives for buying an EV, that price will come down a bit more.
The Model X seats 7 adults. Just how many kids do you have? Are you currently driving a school bus or something?
It doesn't cost 80K. You're either purposely lying or are simply ignorant. Model S base price is $62,400 after the Federal tax credit that everyone in the US gets (and some states offer additional financial incentives that bring that down even further).
As for what it compares to, that'd be Mercedes S-Class, BMW 7 series, and Audi A8. It compared quite favorably against them as its sales figures have shown (it's crushing its direct competitors). It's also Motor Trend's Car of the Year and Consumer Reports gave it 99/100; its highest rating ever for a car.
Here's the closest you'll find so far: http://www.teslamotors.com/modelx
210 mile range for about the same you paid for the Yukon. Seats 7 adults, 0-60 in 4.4 seconds. Deliveries begin in 2014.
Not sure why you need this urban assault vehicle, but I completely understand not wanting anything to do with the typical goofy looking EV micro-cars that are the Leaf, etc. Personally, I see a lot of reasonable stuff in between. If a full size sedan works for you, the Model S (http://www.teslamotors.com/models) seats 5 adults and 2 children very comfortably and sells for about the same as your Yukon.
If I bought a Nissan Leaf, I'd have to get it towed home from work every day.
EVs don't work in the real world until you start operating on Tesla's level. Nissan better up their game since Tesla's next model (Model E) is scheduled to do 200 miles for $35k. Combined with the ongoing rollout of the Tesla-only Supercharge network, I just don't see anyone going elsewhere for an EV without some major changes to what's available.
The salt? Maybe. If you can even prove it's happening and can prove who's responsible for it. Everything else? If people are entering your property without your permission and destroying your property, I'd say you have every reason to install legitimate security equipment to stop that.
(I know one person that ended up moving over the harassment he got when he shot a neighbors cat. Also, every potted plant and his entire lawn died. It's assumed that one or more persons put herbicide on all of them.)
Sounds like your friend decided to back down. Another option would have been to simply take the necessary steps to ensure that the sanctity and security of his home were no longer violated by either neighbors or their unwelcome animals.
Step 1: Surround the house with 5,000-lumen security lights - http://www.amazon.com/Whelen-Super-LED-Floodlight-5000-Lumens/dp/B004HL5W7Y
Step 2: Install motion sensors near the house connected to 105dB sirens - http://simplisafe.com/105-decibel-alarm-siren
Step 3: Utilize ArduCopter HEXA at high altitude to deliver daily 3.3lb payload of salt to enemy neighbors' yards - http://www.canadadrones.com/ArduCopter-Hexa-KIT-HEAVY-LIFT-Full-Electronics-p/ac-hexa-kit-full-hl1.htm
Step 4: Sue to tear out all boundary trees in enemy neighbors' yards
Step 5: Replace your potted plants with well fertilized plants all along the property line (ensuring to-the-letter compliance with local/HOA requirements)
Step 6: Operate multiple wireless routers (properly secured of course) at all frequencies and channels as close to enemy neighbors' houses as possible
A few weeks or months of being sleep deprived, blind, and deaf, losing their trees, watching every other form of plant life in their yard slowly die, smelling the shit-smell gently wafting over from your new plants, and being completely unable to maintain a functional wireless device, they'll either surrender or move (i.e. surrender). That or they'll be driven to do something terribly illegal which will land them in jail.
That won't do it. What you need to do is put some teeth in the Constitution. Simply define any violation of the Constitution by an agent or employee of the government as treason and put every non-unanimous SCOTUS decision to a popular vote. If 4/5 of voters agree that one side or the other obviously violated the Constitution with their opinion (be it the winning or losing side), they also go on trial for treason.
Kiss that rubber stamp from the courts goodbye. No more Citizens United or Kelo decisions. And good luck getting any sizable number of people on board with blatantly illegal activities that violate the Constitution when everyone who participates in any way in anything questionable is risking their lives. Today, anyone can willfully disregard the highest law of the land with no consequence. The higher up they are, the larger and more grand their golden parachute is should they ever be required to take a dive for the folks upstairs. Watch in utter amazement how few government lawyers will jump to write position papers defending secret surveillance, detainment, and torture of US citizens when doing so is automatic treason.
And who handles the prosecution and holds the trial? A semi-random group of citizens selected automatically for the task. No more inside group who would never go after one another. No more buddy-buddy side deals that make everything go away because they're from the right family or have the right connections. Just regular people applying common sense and decency to keep everyone in government in line. You walk the straight and narrow or the citizens come calling.
Anything less, you can forget it working. These idiots responded to "the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" by banning guns and they responded to "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated" by launching secret surveillance programs to watch us every minute of every day to the greatest extend currently possible.
If you think this is all coming from a lack of clarity, then you haven't been paying attention. It's coming from a lack of consequences.
SEALs don't work in 24-man teams; that'd be too noisy. A SEAL team is typically made up of 6-8 individuals, each with a specific specialty.
Develop Linux like Intel develops CPUs: first you make a new shiny, then you do an entire release on improving that shiny. Rinse and repeat ad infinitum. Even better if you have two competing teams working on it. Whichever team comes up with the better product by launch time gets the nod.
Life is a healthy respect for mother nature laced with greed.