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Comment Re:Headline is misleading and inflammatory (Score 1) 1134

You can do important stuff from the command line on Windows - IIS log queries with LogParser and batch image editing with ImageMagick are some of the reasons I've used this in just the past couple of days. But the average Windows user never needs to see or touch it. This is why Windows is a mainstream desktop OS and Linux is not.

Could you explain why MSDOS triumphed over Mac OS in the personal computer marketplace for 11 years before finally being replaced by Win95?

Comment Re:human language (Score 1) 1134

None of this is the case with PC command lines. The syntax, spelling, and formatting has to be exact or else it won't work. There is very little wiggle room. If the average person had to write a perfectly spelled, perfectly grammatical sentence using only specific hand-picked words in order to be understood, then mass literacy would be impossible.

If you misspell something, the computer will say 'huh?' and throw syntax error. You'll go back to your history, find your typo and be on your way. This is really not beyond most people.

Anyways, with tab completion, people should hardly ever be making errors unless they already know the commands by heart.

Comment Re:Then try Ubuntu or such. (Score 1) 1134

A PC is not a DVD player. A PC is a lever for the mind, thus I don't really consider anyone computer literate who can't write a short program. After all, while we don't expect the average person to write a novel or even a press release, we do include the ability to compose a few short paragraphs of readable text in the definition of English literacy.

This is so true. It was a dark day when the idea that a common user should be able to use a computer without even minimal programming ability became the norm. Instead of teaching the illiterate to read, we decided the books should talk. :(

Getting the illiterate moved to Android or iProducts will be a net win since they will then stop exerting undue market influence on dumbing down computers because, illiterate as they might be, as militantly proud of their illiteracy as all too many are, they had to use one until recently to have acces to the most basic word processing, email and web access.

PLEASE NO! I really like my cheapo personal super computers. I know exploitation is bad ... but still.

Comment Re:Oh, this won't end well... (Score 1) 1134

Average Users (Joe Web Browser or Sally Word Processor) don't use or need a CLI, never have. That goes way way back to the DOS days by the way (obviously before Web Browsing), when a dual floppy was required to boot DOS and load Wordperfect. They didn't know DOS and didn't need to. But bet your ass some guy used a CLI to make the Average User function day to day.

No way dude. The common WP DOS user needed at least minimal DOS knowledge to admin their system. In the USA, dual floppy systems were more the exception that the rule. In order to use a DOS hard disk box with multiple applications installed, your going to at least need know basic things about paths. Once you're walking the dir structure with the command line, moving/ deleting files, formatting floppy disks, etc the more complex stuff can added be organically.

I suspect many a computer nerd was born from the need to run WP or some odd game on DOS.

Comment Re:short memories (Score 1) 696

Please do not besmirch the Apple ][ by associating it with a Mac. The platform's values are totally at odds with those of the Mac's. Every user manual came with schematics and a firmware listing.

Steve Jobs cried when Woz refused to cut down the number of expansion slots from seven to two. ;)

When the graphic interface was commercialized the hacker crowd said 'who needs a mouse and pretty graphic screen when a green command line works just fine'.

Most of those hackers were probably Apple II users. If you recall Apple's old iconic logo you would know the Apple II was all about color.

Short memories indeed.

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