I'm sorry. First you have to provide evidence for dualism before you can make further claims about it.

Since this has been a total victory for Google, they will likely get a fair amount of legal fees back. So the real point is that Oracle should have played ball with Google. They're greed cost them not only the case but also the presence of Java on the Android ecosystem.

As to whether Dalvim damages Java, I could care less. Let the two forks compete and may the best one win.

Oh and you're a fucking idiot.

I've actually had fairly good success with PG and eBooks. They are just as good, if not better in some cases, than the eBooks I've purchased so far as quality control goes.

It would have been bad, but not the end of the world as people keep believing. Calling APIs would have almost certainly been a fair use exemption and pretty much no vendor is likely actually sue over it even if it wasn't. You might have had some issues calling undocumented APIs, and stuff like WINE and SAMBA could have had issues if Microsoft had felt particularly inclined to do so.

Bullshit. If copyright could be extended to APIs, it means whoever developed those APIs automatically can dictate how and by who they are accessed. I love the comment "WINE and Samba could have had issues". Even in your own "this ain't a big deal" post you admit, in a minimalistic sort of way, that Microsoft could potentially have had the power to invoke copyright over the work-alike APIs. For "problem" read "shut down".

The biggest problem with this case is that both sides need to lose. Dalvik needs to be stopped, and copyrighting APIs needs to be stopped, more importantly someone needs to take the execs at Google into the alley out the back and beat them until they promise to stop doing this kind of shit. They knew damned well what they were doing and they've rolled the dice at terrible risk to everyone and spent millions of dollars getting into a pissing match they never should have started. If they'd just licensed Java in the first place none of this would have been necessary.

1. They don't need to license Java. It's a programming language, and cannot be copyrighted (this is long standing in US and international IP law). And, as we see, they don't need to licence the JVM if they go out and build their own virtual machine.
2. How is what Google did with Dalvik one bit different than what the GCJ team did allowing Java source to be compiled to native machine code? If Google is so evil for daring to develop it's own virtual machine, then the Gnu folks must be even worse for allowing a Java developer to bypass the JVM entirely.
3. It's a free country. Don't use Dalvik if you don't want to. Maybe somebody needs to take you into the alley and beat a little respect for free enterprise into you.

I haven't been this thrilled with a judge since the Dover Decision squashed the Intelligent Design scam.

You must have spitting fire when GCJ created the ability to compile Java to native machine code.

Java is a language, just like C, C#, PHP, Cobol, and all the rest. If someone wants to write something that compiles to native machine code, to some other language or to some other VM, then so what? This all happened because Sun, and later Oracle, thought they had a level of control it now is shown they do not. This whole "purity of Java" line is bunk. It's like saying "the only true C is C compiled to a PDP-7".

Besides, your Java code is, for the most part, just a cross-compile away from Dalvik. The situation is hardly that dire.

Or, to put it simply, the parent is committing the etymological fallacy. The meaning of the word has changed, as happens on occasion, language and usage not being fixed forever.

In Soviet Russia Googles You!

The shills sure didn't the get the first posts this time. I guess they don't like the taste of their own frosty piss.

Hell, it would have meant Open/LibreOffice and just about anyone with software or libraries that can read or write the old Word 97-2003 formats would be insanely vulnerable. The distance between an API, a document format or a protocol is no distance at all, and anyone who didn't have a license to write Word-compatible files could be nailed to the wall.