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Comment: Re:0xB16B00B5 (Score 1) 897

by Kate6 (#40706765) Attached to: Microsoft Apologizes For Inserting Naughty Phrase Into Linux Kernel
*I* don't actually personally feel uncomfortable with that particular constant in any way shape or form.  But I've quit programming jobs before because of other comments that *did* make me feel uncomfortable, and the people who made those comments sounded an awful lot like this when they told me over and over again that I was overreacting.

The main job I'm thinking of where this happened was one in which I was the lead programmer.  I was being paid 1099 and my employer never bothered to have me sign a contract, and this employer had a way of getting very, very offensive when he was feeling stressed out.  So suddenly I found myself being hounded with uncomfortable texts, Emails and Skype calls and being told that because I'm "just a service provider" I had no right to complain.  I ended up leaving him high and dry a few weeks before a hard deadline with a major client, losing him several thousand dollars in the process...  Money that he could easily have saved if he'd demonstrated the *slightest* willingness to even *try* to be a little bit more professional with me.

But this isn't about my personal comfort level and how much stress I can tolerate.  It's about the idea that encouraging a diverse workplace involves acknowledging that on a personal level, your co-workers may think and feel very differently about things than you do, and demonstrating a willingness to be sensitive to that.  Yeah, you're probably right, someone who'll quit her job over one very geeky and mildly dirty joke probably has a few issues.  But the question to really ask is how commonplace this type of thing is at any particular company.

Comment: Re:0xB16B00B5 (Score 1) 897

by Kate6 (#40705749) Attached to: Microsoft Apologizes For Inserting Naughty Phrase Into Linux Kernel
"Clearly false if it were written by a woman"...  I think it's *you* who's making an assumption here.

I suppose the question of whether "0xFA7C0C45" is sexist or just inappropriate/unprofessional is a fairly subjective one.  Is there really that much of a distinction there in your mind?

Comment: Re:0xB16B00B5 (Score 1) 897

by Kate6 (#40705653) Attached to: Microsoft Apologizes For Inserting Naughty Phrase Into Linux Kernel
I've apparently poorly communicated my point.

I don't think there's anything sexist about loving big tits.  What *is* sexist is routinely displaying behavior *at work* that would make people of a particular sex feel less welcome there.  So no, IMHO your wife's sexual preferences do not in and of themselves make her sexist.

Comment: Re:0xB16B00B5 (Score 2, Insightful) 897

by Kate6 (#40705555) Attached to: Microsoft Apologizes For Inserting Naughty Phrase Into Linux Kernel
Generally I agree with you -- in fact I'm going to go ahead and say that I too prize individuality.

At the same time, I don't think the workplace is necessarily the best place to express your individuality in its full force.  A workplace means being part of a team, and it's in the interest of the employer to make sure that talented individuals who are great at their jobs and have something to contribute are going to feel comfortable at the office and able to contribute their best.  This frequently means sacrificing some of your individuality while at the workplace.

I think working as a programmer should only require that you be *good at writing code*.  It shouldn't matter how sensitive or insensitive you are, and it shouldn't matter how much capacity you have for handling stress coming from having blatantly insensitive, domineering coworkers.  I think it is to the best advantage of employers to manage their businesses in a way that promotes having anyone who is *good at writing code* feel comfortable at the office.

Comment: Re:0xB16B00B5 (Score 3, Interesting) 897

by Kate6 (#40705467) Attached to: Microsoft Apologizes For Inserting Naughty Phrase Into Linux Kernel
I don't really feel like this is an appropriate forum to get into an in-depth discussion of feminist philosophy.

That being said, IMHO if female coworkers were routinely commenting on the size of your nose or your waist line, that would very definitely be unprofessional behavior on their part.  And if a female programmer named her constants things like "TINY_DICK_LOSER," I'd count that as sexism.

I'm not suggesting or supporting any sort of double standard -- I'm just suggesting that a professional environment involves placing a few boundaries on your behavior in order to make *sure* that, to use your words, "everyone gets along, has a good time and enjoys what they're doing."  That might mean not making the overweight man overly self conscious about his weight, it might mean making a point of making *eye contact* with the lady with the well-endowed chest, it might mean refraining from mentioning that you spent your weekend picketing an abortion clinic, or that you spent your weekend campaigning for gay marriage.

You don't make the assumption that your co-workers are all going to feel the same way as you on any potentially charged issue.

Comment: Re:0xB16B00B5 (Score 4, Insightful) 897

by Kate6 (#40704709) Attached to: Microsoft Apologizes For Inserting Naughty Phrase Into Linux Kernel
I'm sorry to say this, but this is another bit of typical patriarchy talk -- if a woman feels uncomfortable with something men are doing, she's automatically "uptight" or "frigid."  Sorry, but no.  Professionalism dictates keeping this sort of thing out of the workplace.  Sure, some women may be able to laugh it off for the sake of appearing to be a "team player" and putting the men on the team at ease, but honestly I can't imagine very many of us are actually truly completely comfortable with the idea of people we aren't reasonably intimate with commenting on our chests.

I don't disagree that this can often be an exceedingly boring field to work in.  At the same time, it's a reasonably well paying one, and a basement office can still be brightened up considerably with a few plants and tasteful paintings.  As long as you don't have an officemate who's constantly showering you with unsolicited innuendo.

Comment: Re:0xB16B00B5 (Score -1, Offtopic) 897

by Kate6 (#40704605) Attached to: Microsoft Apologizes For Inserting Naughty Phrase Into Linux Kernel
Right, because adult women are all obviously (1) straight (2) insecure about our chests and (3) married to men with "real jobs" who take care of all our "real" needs.

No, we write code to pay our rent and put food on the table, just like you.  And some of us are nerdy enough to immediately notice words in hex codes, just like some of you are.

Comment: Re:0xB16B00B5 (Score 5, Insightful) 897

by Kate6 (#40704181) Attached to: Microsoft Apologizes For Inserting Naughty Phrase Into Linux Kernel
It's sexist in that if a very talented woman programmer was going around hacking in the kernel and found it, it might make her feel uncomfortable.  As such, it contributes to the feeling that Linux kernel development is an area in which women aren't welcome...  And believe it or not, sort of thing is the reason why there are so few female programmers.  Our "tiny female brains" can cope with the actual work *just fine*.  :)

Comment: Re:This won't really affect anything. (Score 1) 250

by Kate6 (#40643283) Attached to: jQuery 2.0 Will Drop Support For IE 6, 7, 8
Oh who the heck cares?  My point is that jQuery isn't actually dropping support for legacy versions of IE -- they're just creating a more optimal version of their library for newer browsers.  And I was trying to keep my code example reasonably clear and simple.

By all means, though, go ahead and start a whole sub-thread about what the most optimal way to do the browser detection would be.  There seems to be a lot of commenters who feel it ought to be done using IE conditional comments.

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