My dog eats its own poop.
Not a ringing endorsement for the dog food metaphor.
My dog eats its own poop.
Not a ringing endorsement for the dog food metaphor.
The principles of safety and privacy do not require an accident before hand to be recognized.
Actually, most safety and security activities are the direct result of an attack or accident. For example, traffic signals are usually erected at unsafe intersections only after a certain number of severe accidents. Sony didn't encrypt their users' passwords in their database, even though hacking of it has been a very real possibility for many years (and I'm only presuming they've encrypted it since the leak.) The world (except for Israel) didn't get truly strong airline security until after the September 11th attacks.
When the anti-vaxxers come out of the woodwork it's best to bring out the big guns like polio. My parents have a lot of stories about kids in their school class with polio.
On that score, I can recommend a novel called Nemesis by Philip Roth. I knew absolutely nothing about polio before I read it. For example, I figured polio was a degenerative condition where if you were sick for long enough you'd end up in an iron lung. Nope, you'd go from looking like you had the flu to ending up in an iron lung inside of a couple of weeks. I never knew this because nobody I've ever known, including my grandparents etc, has ever had polio. But once upon a time a lot of people had polio. Vaccination made it go away, and it's absolutely nothing we want coming back.
Chicken pox ain't polio, and to me it was a cake walk, and I never knew anybody who went to the hospital for chicken pox, though I know it happened. But I guess it's better to have a vaccine for it. I mean, when can you ever say that it's worse when we can prevent a disease? I just have this weird thing in my head where it was a rite of passage, and back in the day it was the same for measles et cetera. But ideally speaking, people shouldn't get sick if we can prevent it. It's just the thing.
Yeah, me it was junior high school, so we're talking like 12.
Exactly, IMO the FDA is shutting down a useful service in order to protect a few idiots out there would would act on the results as gospel.
Bullshit. The FDA isn't "shutting 23andMe down." Nobody woke up yesterday morning and was told 23andMe had to shut down. 23andMe had YEARS to get in compliance with FDA regulations, but instead it chose to say "we don't agree that we fall under the jurisdiction of the FDA" and do nothing. And then, golly gosh, it turns out that we do actually live in a society of laws after all. If I was an investor in 23andMe, I would be steaming pissed.
So does the local palm-reader.
The point appears to be that you can provide medical advice if you are completely unscientific about it, but as soon as you try to offer even a little bit (even of experimental or tenuous) fact, then you have to go whole hog.
Seriously? So in your book, a doctor who has spent years at medical school and practiced in the field for years more is a "palm reader," but whichever unlicensed, unregulated nobody who reads you your 23andMe test results is a "scientist"? I guess in the unmitigated bullshit stakes, that makes you a dean of medicine.
It's biomechanics, not sexism. If you accept that women wear bras, it's in a perfect position to take an EKG reading. Men don't ordinarily wear a form-fitting piece of clothing in the same place.
If you want the same benefits for a man's physiology, think about the many chest-strap heart-rate monitors in the marketplace today. Can they comfortably carry the same amount of electronics and batteries? No. So in your world where this is "sexist", does that mean women should be denied this tool because it isn't equally available to both genders?
This device is no more or less sexist than the clothing that already exists.
How could that possibly be within any legitimate government's domain? Using the same rational they could shut down wikipedia or rxlist.
They sure would shut down Wikipedia or RXList if those services allowed you to make an appointment to consult them for medical advice. Even campus health nurses have to be licensed.
What Wikipedia offers now is pretty much the same thing as reading information out of a book. You can't stop people from doing that, and there's no law against it.
What 23andMe does is market a product that you use to extract unique information about your own body, which is then presented to you in the form of suggestions about what health measures you should take -- in other words, medical advice. Very different.
...and if you want to convince the right-wingers, come up with a number for how much all of this costs the country, in terms of hospitalizing people who don't have insurance, etc...
Bottom line, normally 60 cases a year, but spike was 175 cases. so what, that is nothing. measles therefore is not a concern in this country.
Don't be dense. It's not a case of "if some people get vaccines we get no cases and if nobody gets vaccinated we get 175 cases." In France, where the instance of non-vaccination is much higher than it is in the US, there were five thousand cases of measles reported in the first three months of 2011 alone. You want the US to go that way, keep thinking measles vaccination is "not a concern."
I had chicken pox as a kid and got it pretty bad. I just hope I don't end up with shingles which is quite miserable for those I know who suffer from it. Anyone who thinks two weeks of hell and a high probability of getting shingles is better than a couple quick jabs is an idiot.
You've just crossed the divide where my perspective is different than yours. When I was a kid, there was no chicken pox vaccine and everybody got it. If you knew a kid who had it, your parents sometimes sent you over to "say hi" to that kid, in hopes that you would catch it, because generally the younger you caught it, the milder the effects. (It's not much fun coming down with full-blown chicken pox as an adult, like my friend Dave eventually did -- picture trying to shave.)
Anyway, "two weeks of hell" is hardly how I'd describe the chicken pox. Two weeks of skipping school, getting to sit in front of the TV and watch anything I wanted, eating whatever I wanted (though to be honest, my sense of taste went funny while I was sick so not everything was enjoyable) and generally having a nice bed-rest vacation is how I remember it. When I heard that they were handing out chicken pox vaccines to kids, my first thought was "pussies."
But, I guess times change.
Perhaps this is why the FDA put the kabosh on it
The FDA was very clear about why they stopped it. It wasn't necessarily that the information was misleading, but that it would lead patients to make decisions about their own care without necessarily consulting a doctor, which the FDA thinks is not a good idea -- and I totally see their point, frankly.
For example, one of the things that 23andMe can tell you is how well you might respond to one drug versus another, because of your specific genetic makeup. If you take that advice and change the dosage of your medication or switch to a different medication without discussing the issue with your doctor, you could cause yourself serious harm.
On the far end of the scale, "false positives" for some diseases could be catastrophic -- say, if a woman was erroneously told she had a high chance of contracting a certain type of breast cancer and decided to have a double mastectomy, like Angelina Jolie had done.
23andMe claimed that all it was doing was giving people information. But really, the way the information was structured and presented to the customer made it clear that it was designed to be diagnostically relevant and that they should use it to make decisions about how to proceed with health care. Any service that performs that function clearly falls under the jurisdiction of the FDA, IMHO.
I could eventually find out. But I won't. You just want an excuse not to do what you know you should do.
And there you have it, folks
Get your tetanus boosters, folks. You need one every ten years.
I never said YOU could get the shot. I said I got the shot. For all I know it may be years before they roll it out to the general public. It was new, so that's quite possible.
"For all you know"... and you don't even know what it is or what company manufactures it, in fact you can't provide a single link to any source of information about it and who might have access to it. Well, I'm convinced.
Actually, it's not eradicated, and it's actually making a comeback (thanks to the anti-vaxxers).
You're mistaken. No known human has contracted any form of naturally-occurring smallpox (i.e. not laboratory grown) since 1977 -- and we actually know the first and last name of the last person who ever did.
You're probably thinking of some other disease. There are lots of them; smallpox is the only one we've ever gotten rid of.
I bet the human brain is a kludge. -- Marvin Minsky