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Comment: Check with the power company... (Score 1) 287

by Firethorn (#47933263) Attached to: Is the Tesla Model 3 Actually Going To Cost $50,000?

How easy is it to get a separate time-of-day rate meter in California?

I'd rate it as 'very easy' - there are companies that will do the install and I found an article on Los Angeles EV rebates. It pays you $250 for a separate meter, which they say will cover 'months' of charging. From what I remember electric meters are cheaper than water meters.

The Tesla can indeed be configured to charge only during a preset time, or hooked up to a system that allows the power company to turn it off when needed for even more discounts.

Comment: Re: Still pretty affordable (Score 1) 287

by Firethorn (#47933203) Attached to: Is the Tesla Model 3 Actually Going To Cost $50,000?

According to the official figures, the US gov't spends more money per capita on health insurance than countries that provide universal coverage. It is a sickening example of cronyism and thinly veiled bribery.

According to the official figures I've seen, the Federal government alone pays enough to not quite as much per person as the cheaper European states spend to cover 100% of their population. Add in the individual State funding and you could pay median European* healthcare costs on an individual basis without a single private dime.

As a (moderate) libertarian, I actually find this a good argument for national single-payer if it's implemented somewhat correctly. Because if done right it would actually REDUCE government spending, meaning by my 'yardstick' we actually have less government while people are better off. I, of course, have to point out that I think there are better options, but it's more a measure of just how big a cluster of screw-ups our healthcare system is.

*not to mention Australia, Canada, Japan, South Korea, etc...

Comment: BMW expense (Score 1) 287

by Firethorn (#47933123) Attached to: Is the Tesla Model 3 Actually Going To Cost $50,000?

$500 lease payment + $150 in gasoline (15k miles, 30mpg, $4/gallon gasoline, rounded down). You might want to round up to account

Once you factor that in, you're looking at $350/month cars, which are still nice ones if not BMW 3 series.

My Tacoma was $300/month while the payments lasted, and it's not exactly long on features, and bought in '08.

Comment: Re:Maybe 40k (Score 1) 287

by Firethorn (#47933051) Attached to: Is the Tesla Model 3 Actually Going To Cost $50,000?

For the cost of Telsa's batteries to drop, Tesla's battery factory needs to run at full capacity.

Not entirely true. It's my understanding that the initial facility will be 'mostly' empty, giving it plenty of room to expand to both increase production and implement new technology. There are size limits when you get into truly massive automated production where you end up switching to parallel production lines. At that point there are sweet spots where every production line is maxed out, but the net effect is that each fully maxed out production line helps cover the 1 non-maxed, so the overall difference is minimized as the number of lines increase.

Another point would be to ask whether the projection for 2020 covers a ~$35k EV with 200 miles range. It could cause demand to explode.

Comment: Re:Actually against Islam (Score 1) 742

by Firethorn (#47932435) Attached to: ISIS Bans Math and Social Studies For Children

It's basically a redux of Afghanistan with the Taliban, where a militant group takes over a failed state. Except my understanding is that they're being even more brutal.

The end result of de-emphasis on core education will result in their regressing even more, eventually leading to 'the caliphate' being seen as another North Korea type situation if they're 'lucky', and being invaded like Afghanistan if they're not extremely lucky.

Basically, AQ has been around for decades. ISIS might be mostly gone in a couple years.

Comment: Re:Most taxes are legalized theft (Score 1) 306

by roman_mir (#47932331) Attached to: New Global Plan Would Crack Down On Corporate Tax Avoidance

Nobody is stealing your money - you're paying taxes.

- wrong, income taxes are legalised theft of life, creativity, time on this planet. It is slavery imposed by the violence of the collective on behalf of those, who perceive it to be to their advantage, whether it is so or not and against those, who are in a minority. This is how income taxes started in USA in the first place, top 2% of people were forced to be paid up to 7% of their income in taxes so that the vast majority wouldn't have to pay alcohol and some import taxes anymore (of-course the result is that everybody pays insane amounts of taxes, both on income side and on consumption).

The rest of us will recognize your right to retain the rest of your property if you recognize your responsibility to help care for the indigent

- wrong, nobody has any responsibilities towards anybody unless they are your children, then you have responsibility to them.

If you don't do your part, then why should I recognize that you have any right to own property at all?

- because it is in your best interest to recognise that if I cannot own property, then neither can you.

That's what society used to be: very few people owned any property, everybody belonged to the select few, who had the so called 'birth right' to it. You couldn't earn property, you could only be born into it or be given it by somebody who was born into it.

Meritocracy is a much more fair system to everybody, except for those, who lost that birth right of-course.

But, call it theft if you like. It really doesn't change the fact that you have no choice but to comply.

- wrong. I do not comply, I use the 5 flag strategy to ensure that something like you has a very limited access to my property.

I imagine that you'd be a little less lofty in your views if you had one of those irresponsible parents. Heck, some kids don't have any parents/family at all.

- irrelevant.

The fact is that all the property/etc you've worked so hard to obtain is only yours as the result of you having been born to parents who raised you well, and who gave you genes that allow you to support yourself.

- parents, fine. That is none of anybody's business.

What you are born with physically is of nobody's business.

Absent either of those, and especially absent the latter, you'd be as well-off as an ape that shares 98% of your genetics.

- I am yet to see an ape that is forced to pay income taxes.

As a result, I certainly have no moral issues with requiring anybody with the ability to take care of themselves to spend some of their effort taking care of others, using force if they do not wish to do so.

- irrelevant what you have or have no moral issues with. I already know what your 'morality' is. Socialist/Marxis morality is violence and theft, nothing else. I have no qualms and no doubts about your level of 'morality' and thus I do what I can to avoid such as yourself.

Comment: Re: Still pretty affordable (Score 1) 287

by OhPlz (#47931539) Attached to: Is the Tesla Model 3 Actually Going To Cost $50,000?

So you want to keep the farm subsidies, the oil subsidies, etc? Is it just a free-for-all? Any new thing needs a subsidy?

What ever happened to American individualism and entrepreneurship? What ever happened to taking risk in order to earn the reward? Would we even need all these subsidies if we got rid of them? We'd have more money to go around. Why does the federal government need to take our money to then turn around and use it to "help" us pay for things?

Who is accountable? Anyone? We subsidized the heck out of the phone companies, where is our high speed Internet?

Comment: Re:I LOVE READING PROPAGANDA (Score 1) 742

by jythie (#47930235) Attached to: ISIS Bans Math and Social Studies For Children

In 1953 the percentage of GDP from manufacturing was 28%. In 2012 it was at 12%. I'd call that a drop.

Between 1953 and 2012 the GDP has gone up by about 600% (adjusted for inflation), so that is still a net increase in manufacturing by a significant margin, just not as large of an increase as other sectors.

Money is the root of all evil, and man needs roots.