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Comment: Re:If it walks like a duck (Score 1) 634

by I_want_information (#35170936) Attached to: Teacher Suspended Over Blog About Students

I teach a general education course for my state university system. My students are third year students.

I have to tell them in writing that plagiarism is not allowed.

I have to tell them in writing that they need to attend class.

From an actual student email: "I also want to know if coming into class is a big deal for the sake of importance in missing something big?"

Another student decided to ignore the course URL on the syllabus but remembered I use Moodle, so has spent the last THREE WEEKS wandering aimlessly around moodle.org looking for his class' website.

At least four of them had problems with a login that was their first initial followed by their last name, with their password being the same.

I have students openly either sleeping or surfing porn in class.

Comment: Re:No sympathy (Score 1) 634

by I_want_information (#35170884) Attached to: Teacher Suspended Over Blog About Students

Good for you! My mother had the same reputation but they couldn't threaten her because she dotted her i's and crossed her t's (meaning that she documented EVERYTHING) and my district is lucky we didn't sue them. I've been there and know exactly what you are talking about. I applaud you for sticking up for your daughter.

Comment: Re:Yes, you have to make C to get paid (Score 1) 610

by I_want_information (#32273400) Attached to: iPhone SDK Agreement Shuts Out HyperCard Clone

RunRev CEO:

> It makes perfect sense to have a high quality, rapid application
> development system available for the iPhone and iPad.

We already have that with Xcode. It's the same rapid application development system that a physicist used in 1990 to create the World Wide Web. A non-programmer was able to create the fucking Web with these tools.

Yes, and one of those web co-creators did it inspired by the Hypercard ancestor of RunRev while the other is a RunRev user today. If it's good enough for them...

Comment: Re:I'm not convinced at all (Score 1) 578

by I_want_information (#30288318) Attached to: Dumbing Down Programming?

No, they will do none of those things, including coming to you for a job. And the nice thing about this language is that they won't be doing those things because they don't have to. Do they have fun? You bet. Do they benefit? Yes, they benefit from being able to create their own solutions. They benefit from increased confidence in using something other than PowerPoint which, when you consider that these students are not ever going to lust about creating their own operating system, is huge. In terms of inventing a new language, subsets of this language have been successfully in use since the mid-1980s. Why natural language and GUI toolbars and widgets? Because normal humans, e.g., nonprogrammers, tend to be visual learners. I once had the opportunity to hear Robert Callaiou, co-inventor of the web (and, incidentally, a Rev user!), speak on the subject and he humorously noted what nearly every study I've read on the subject of teaching programming to novive/nonprogrammers: that learning language is best which contains the fewest curseword characters, because all those funky characters and definitely not normal usage of punctuation can make beginners go cross-eyed.

Comment: Re:for all the trolls here, I've used this for 5 y (Score 1) 578

by I_want_information (#30252388) Attached to: Dumbing Down Programming?

No, you're trolls because you criticize it without even looking at it and kicking its tires. Some of the people posting here in defense of the product are doing so not because they are paid to do so but rather because, unlike you, we did download it and kick its tires... and we're happy customers.

Comment: Re:language is just a tool (Score 1) 578

by I_want_information (#30251724) Attached to: Dumbing Down Programming?

Which is precisely why the language does matter. languages that depend heavily on properly placed dots/semicolons/curlicue brackets and indenting are simply more difficult to learn. Writing proper pseudocode ends up being sacrificed for these things and, with RevTalk, the pseudocode ends up being pretty close to the real code.

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