The level of abuses - both the spying itself, subsequent known abuses of the data, and countless likely unknown abuses - has already done enough damage to the fabric of the ideal of democracy, that an open and straightforward conversation is not enough. When there are very real threats that people will be tortured to preserve government secrecy about this...
The only straightforward and sensible conversation at this point can be about shutting it down, and how quickly we can shut it down. You cannot have a democracy in this environment where the public is left completely uninformed, the programs are shrouded in secrecy, and any attempt to unravel that secrecy is met with "National Security, go fuck yourself." Snowden was straight on point when he said we building a solution for "turnkey tyranny." Communism to the extreme, or Capitalism to the extreme all lead to totalitarianism with control and power centered in the hands of the very few. Look at Jeff Bezos--whose company is a HUGE government contractor--buying The Washington Post, one of the bigger critics and writing about the Spying State, I'm sure that was pure coincidence, probably a childhood dream to own a newspaper right?
Look at the skill with which the NSA protects their own secrets, do you think they are protecting yours? Surely not, and more to the point, they use those against you. I'm sure there are a lot of good people that would run for office to solve this mess, if only the State didn't record every little detail of a person's life to use against them when they run for political office. Calling America a democracy is a farce, we're given the illusion of choice, there is no real choice anymore. It's all about control, State control, for "make happy benefit of monied interests" as Borat would say.
The President can keep a secret kill list of US Citizens, and execute that kill list with no oversight or transparency, all in the name of Terrorism or National Security. "Nation Security" is a term perverted far what it's actual meaning, all you have to do is "know something" they think you shouldn't know and the President can "arrange for an accident" to happen to you. I'm not worried about "terrorists", I'm worried about my own government assassinating me.
Ask yourself, who gained the most from the events of 9/11? We need to roll all this back. And to the various Analysts parsing this post, do you really think you're doing a moral and ethical job? Do you think you're serving the good of the general citizenry or are you serving deep pockets? Do you really think The People would approve of what and how you're doing what you're doing if they knew all the details?
Not like there is any point in posting this "Anonymously."