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Comment: Re:Everyone should just say "interesting" (Score 1) 295

by Grey Geezer (#48090411) Attached to: NASA Study: Ocean Abyss Has Not Warmed

And the last thing either side is going to display is a touch of humility. Useful though that might be.

Well...just how often do scientists need to say "the scientific method compels us to observe, collect and analyze data, and revise our theories when those observations and data require us to do so"? Revising theories, refining our understanding, and being intellectually, is not humility. It's part of the scientific process. The deniers have other motivations.

Comment: Right... (Score 3, Insightful) 423

by Grey Geezer (#48073269) Attached to: Past Measurements May Have Missed Massive Ocean Warming

and there is no conclusive proof that cigarette smoking causes lung disease. No, really, there has never been an observation of a cell mutating after exposure to a puff of smoke. The evidence is only statistical. And yet... reasonable people can accept that the odds are that smoking is unhealthy, in spite of the lack of "hard" scientific proof. Proof of the kind that Climate Change Deniers seem to be demanding. Arctic ice that is 60% thinner than it was when our first nuclear sub crossed under it in the 60s, Old photos of curling (that obscure shuffle board type sport) on fjords that haven't frozen over in decades, the no longer needed fleet of ice breakers on our Great Lakes, fauna found further and further north every year, tree rings, ice cores, historical records...all prove...nothing...but still, reasonable people can conclude that there is a link between our draining of the carbon sinks, and greenhouse warming. It's really not a stretch is it?

Comment: Nonsense..saying science can't give "ultimate" (Score 1) 795

by Grey Geezer (#47965103) Attached to: How Our Botched Understanding of "Science" Ruins Everything

answers is nonsense. We don't know, can't know, what answers science will provide, nor can we know ahead of time which questions it will answer. Just because science has not advanced to, will never advance to, the point where everything has been explained, we are not excused from pursuing knowledge within the scientific method. Religion is faith...organized in a dogmatic and doctrinal system, and to some extent, is required to exist outside of rational, honest, intellectual argument . Science is, in part, changing your mind when observation and experiment dictate that you were wrong. I am not aware of any religionist who has express a willingness to change their mind about the existence of supernatural forces causing stuff to happen. Nonsense

The reason that every major university maintains a department of mathematics is that it's cheaper than institutionalizing all those people.

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