Well, they also might lose a segment of the business, I'm sure isn't quite insignificant...those that buy these systems to PLAY optical media on them.

A couple years back...I gave myself a PS3 for Xmas....for the following reasons:

1. At the time, was a good price on a 3D capable bluray player

2. Plays dvds, CDs...etc

3. Streams Netflix (and now Amazon) ..ok, this one has nothing to do with the drive)

And actually, the fact that it played games, was just a bonus. I've not tried to play many on it yet....still having trouble learning all the damned controls on the thing...and 3rd person perspective still get me. I try playing Red Dead Redemption, someone starts shooting me, next thing I know I'm either staring at the ground or up in the sky and getting shot....and then die.

Oh well...but anyway....I'd have to think at least in the past that would be a significant market. Some of us that lay out good cash for a higher end TV and audio system...prefer to watch our media from a format that can give the full HD experience, and have full 7.1 or whatever audio...something even streaming just cannot match...at least, not yet.

When our country started, very few had the attitude of "fuck'em" to his/her fellow American.

Ok, my mistake...let me be more specific.

Government mandated care for others wasn't around. Sure families took care of each other, and help from the community, voluntarily from your neighbors, etc...was the way of life. I agree with that, and I'm quite generous with my friends and family....but I don't like having my money sucked up by the govt...and given to who knows who for whatever reason. I like to be the judge of who is worthy of my help (time and fiscal).

but it is A-OK to spend that same dollar feeding, clothing, educating and keeping the poor healthy - IN A PRISON.

ONLY if they committed a crime, like theft, murder, etc....

And since you are suggesting that the drugs convictions are taken off the table - that would be a dollar spent on thieves and murdering thieves. Instead of on poor single parents and their children.

How do you figure that? If we weren't locking up so many people for wanting to light up a joint, we'd be saving LOADS of money. How is that taking anything away from poor folks? I don't see the tie between the two. I was basically saying if we weren't wasting money on locking up people that want to smoke or ingest something...we'd have plenty of money and prison space for people committing REAL crimes...things that hurt innocent people (murder, rape, theft, etc).

Most people that do some drugs (booze being a drug) do not go out and rape, murder or otherwise hurt other people around them. If that were the case, the US would have been totally engulfed in flames long ago....most people do some form of chemical recreation here...and most can handle it just fine. Strangely, the one that does seem to cause the most problem, is the legal one....ethyl alcohol.

What's wrong with your life that you spend so much time poring out vileness on the internet? Take a long hard look at yourself in the mirror. Do you really like what you see?

No problems here at all...I am quite happy with myself, my life, etc.

Nope...no self esteem issues here.

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Why do you ask? My reply above was succinct, and would have proven to be a simple fix to the problem.

Should my tax dollars or govt time go to fixing someone else's stupid? I don't see that anywhere in any state or federal constitution.

I hear ya!!

I mean "pull out"? That doesn't sound like the manly thing to do!!

I say leave it in and get the job done.

Hell, if her cabinets are too ugly, just roll her over and go from behind....

The problem is that when they get ill, the health system then has to cover that.

Fuck'em....no it does NOT have to cover them.

If people got the inkling that no one else is going to pay your tab for everything, including healthcare...then people my have a fire lit under their asses to work and save to provide for themselves and their families.....and keeping their family size in check so that these needs could be met realistically.

When our country started, up until the entrechment of the nanny-welfare society we find ourselves in currently...it worked this way. You made it, or you didn't....and it wasn't anyones fault by your own.

The US became a great nation due to reliance on the independence and self-reliance of the people....much of the reason it is going downhill, is due to us taking this 'need' for humans to struggle a bit, and be self reliant away.

As I've posted before...I'm not completely without heart. If you are truly infirmed (mentally or physically handicapped) or elderly and not able to work...sure, lets have a safety net. If we reduced the welfare state to JUST this...we'd nip the debt problem in the bud in just a few years. If you're able bodied and don't choose to work....well, fuck'em, I'm not my brothers keeper.

Our govt and society should be here only to set up an environment where you can survive and succeed with sufficient work (and yes, even some luck). It should not be (and wasn't set up to be originally) an entity that protects you from your own dumb ass judgments and actions. It should allow you to succeed, but if you fuck up, well, you should be allowed to fail.

Life is tough....and no, you shouldn't get a trophy just for showing up.

You know....we had plenty of POOR in this country over the years before we came to this nanny state we have now....if you didn't take care of yourself back then, or your family didn't...you just didn't make it.

We never had any uprisings back then....why would we have them now? Back in the day...no one owed you anything, not even the government, and we got along just fine. Most people, took this as incentive to work their asses off to survive...and even to succeed. Why should it be any different now?

I mean, I'll go for a little modernization...if you're infirmed or old, and just can NOT work, ok...safety net there.

But if you are able bodied at all....well, you must work, and if you fucked up, and had too many kids....well, you need to figure something out. Maybe after awhile with the govt NOT coming to give everyone welfare, etc....and it might take a generation for this lesson to sink in....but after awhile, these idiots might just figure out they need to quit having unprotected sex, having kids...because no one is going to pay them to stay at home, watch tv and breed even more. Let's end this vicious cycle of poverty and dependence which just feeds upon itself and breeds generations that know nothing MORE than the welfare system.

Would it be tough? Sure...but, you have to start some where. We in the US weren't like this originally....we need to go back to that.

And for those that refuse to work and make their own livings...well, lets also turn the clock back, and stop locking people up for ingesting whatever chemical they want for recreation. That would free up TONS of jail space for those few that refuse to learn a lesson and attempt to use crime as a means to earn a living.

"It took the combined efforts of police, fire department, Hazmat unit and EMTs to finally get a 600-pound man in need of medical attention out of his Pennsylvania home." our tax dollars pay for EMS. Fire, Police and Hazmat (WTF hazmat)... it's not like this was a 20 minute call either. they had to CUT THE HOUSE AWAY to get the kid out.

Well, if they'd waited a bit longer, for him to kill himself....waited till he died, they could have just cut him up and take him out in pieces....made it a ONE time job...and much easier on everyone.

Nudges or not, I think we should insist that every time someone call for a ban on something, they do so with a noose around their neck.