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Just thought I'd pass along the name to those of you interested:

unread.org

Ethred is the one who came up with it (mostly as a joke), and I just thought it was a great name. Its fitting unless the site becomes popular, then its ironic :-)

Of course, I just bought the domain, and set it up to forward to marotti.com until I get hosting and such (which I won't consider until the first release candidate, unless someone can get me free java/tomcat/apache/postgres hosting until I can setup a working site with a donation link), so don't worry about hitting the site. Most likely you will hit a 404, otherwise, my pointless marotti.com front page.

Requirements are on their way.... I've been sorting them out and organizing them. Taking longer than expected. If I don't get them out tonight, I will put my notebook (with all the requirements) into my laptop bag to take to work with me.

Also, I'm looking into a (free) site with CVS + Bugtrack to check in the requirements and have a version history of the requirements and usecases. I know someone (george?) suggested another site besides sourceforge... All I need is cvs + bugtrack... what other sites are there besides sourceforge?
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  • And I know it's not your strong suit, but considering he's the one who came up with the name, you might want to spell his [first] name correctly! :-)

    ....Bethanie....
  • As if Ethelred's ego can GET any bigger.
    • His ego is the biggest thing about Ethelred, ya know.

      And speaking of egos!! Dude. How does it feel to have at least TWO sigs floating around that quote you?

      DAMN. You are *special* (like short bus special, sure, but still, that's somethin').

      ;-)

      ....Bethanie....
    • Whatever illusions of innocence I thought I still had have been ripped from me by this thread.

      Oh and wtf is up with galaxisonline anyway?

  • I'd be willing to test the site and just let us know when it's time to pass the hat around. I'll be sure to give a few $$.
  • I felt like a kid waiting for x-mas. Expect unsane.com and unstupid.com to follow.
  • http://savannah.gnu.org/ [gnu.org]

    Not sure, but they might even have subversion.
    • Once you svn, you'll say CVS is teh suck!
    • My project isn't really gnu (is it?). What's the advantage of going savannah instead of SF?
      • If OSDN goes tits up, so does your CVS. I don't forsee GNU going anywhere any time soon.

        You don't need a GNU project to be on Savannah. Only about 25-30% of the projects hosted there are GNU projects.

        While there is a bit of irony in replacing a /. replacement using tools of the parent company, it's also a bit crass.
        • If OSDN goes tits up, so does your CVS. I don't forsee GNU going anywhere any time soon.

          I think there are other sites offering SF (or similar systems) hosting for OSS projects.

          While there is a bit of irony in replacing a /. replacement using tools of the parent company, it's also a bit crass.

          I'm not sure the OSDN people care. There seem to be a lot of content management/blog systems hosted at SF.

          For that matter Scoop (used by Kuro5hin and dailyKOS) is also using SourceForge. I'm not sure if they are
  • Unread.org That's perfect. I can't believe it wasn't taken?

    BTW - over the last few days I have been learning more than I ever wanted to about ASP.NET, as unfortunately FencingMedia.org is hosted on a .NET server...looking forward to finally doing some java developement...let's get crackin'

    Also: I was thinking about a feature for the site. It could have a dynamic game server directory, through which users could find online game servers to join with other users. Sort of like "GameTiger," but focused on ser
    • Also: I was thinking about a feature for the site. It could have a dynamic game server directory, through which users could find online game servers to join with other users. Sort of like "GameTiger," but focused on servers owned/operated by users.

      This would be mega-awesome (unlike the word I just used). I've always wanted to be able to easily hook up a game online with my Slashdot buddies, but it's a real pain to do that through JE's :-)

      I'm a bit disappointed at the choice of language selection si

      • I was thinking about that - java can interoperate with other languages, can't it? For example, if we want to do form validation / cleaning, we could use perl and JNI

        Also, I don't see why the site couldn't have remote native clients ala Livejournal (which has a XML-RPC based API)
        • I was thinking about that - java can interoperate with other languages, can't it? For example, if we want to do form validation / cleaning, we could use perl and JNI

          I'm sure there is some way to do that in J2EE (I'm quite clueless when it comes to that platform), but I'm not sure what use that would be. Your example of form validation and cleaning seems like it would be just as doable in Java as in most other languages. But think if we did the whole thing in .NET, we could code half in C# and half in

          • by cyranoVR (518628) *
            So you're the resident .NET expert, huh? I have made a few cautious steps in that direction recently (downloading C# VB and WD Express kits, coding a aspx page on http://fencingmedia.org/ [fencingmedia.org] )

            Could you briefly explain how "code behind" works, why I might want to use it, and what's the deal with all those

            <asp:

            blah

            >

            tags?

            • Before I start answering questions about the .NET platform, I should give the disclaimer: IANAAD (I am not an ASP.NET Developer). Most of my expertise in .NET is in working with lower level infrastructure and various other namespaces within the framework. I don't have much experience with .ASPX

              Also, let me recommend GotDotNet [gotdotnet.com] and ASP.NET [asp.net] as fairly good sources for information about coding in .NET. The GotDotNet.com website really sucks and is slow, but still has good information. Let me specifically

              • I would highly recommend sticking with code-behind for ASP.NET. Using the old model results in the same spaghetti like crap code that comes out of classic ASP and PHP (there's my flamebait for the day).

                Man, are we on the same page there. After I finish with fencingmedia.org I am never coding another line of class ASP or any other web scripting language ever again (my rant aganst PHP [slashdot.org] from a few weeks ago, in case you missed it).

                The site code is a complete mess of spaghetti, only because I had only a few d
          • I'd hope we'd use SOAP rather than XML-RPC for maximum cross-platform capability (read: .NET).

            According to the XML-RPC proponents [sourceforge.net] SOAP has a lot of features that simple client-server software doesn't need (and, as I understand it, it's meant for machine-to-machine communication rather than human-with-pc-to-machine communications).

            XML-RPC would probably need the cross-platform functionality we need plus it would be easier to implement (from what I understand, anyway).

            • XML-RPC would probably need the cross-platform functionality we need plus it would be easier to implement (from what I understand, anyway)

              I'm no expert but I don't think there is native support for consuming XML-RPC type services in .NET. Microsoft pretty much only backs SOAP.

  • unless someone can get me free java/tomcat/apache/postgres hosting

    I should have known you'd go for a java/tomcat solution. I know you're a bit of a Java zealot, but I'd seriously advise against it. It's been the cause of no end of problems here (with both the JVM and tomcat mysteriously dying on our production servers for no apparent reason). Combined with the performance and security problems, that makes it a poor choice for writing a web application IMHO.

    ObFlamebait: Great hackers [paulgraham.com] :-)

    • .... I honestly dunno how to reply to this. Its almost kinda trollish.

      Tomcat, on its own, is a security nightmare, which is why you pass through apache to get to tomcat, giving you apache's security.

      Tomcat is just a simple solution, I could switch over to JBoss without a problem if the server needs a boost.

      And I've written full web applications for insurance companies and financial institutions. Its what I do for a living. Java is a premier language for web applications (especially large, enterpris
      • Bah. I dig Tomcat myself. Although I haven't used it on an extranet, I use it internally and it's solid as a rock and fast as hell.

        Java rocks, let others write C CGI.... :)
      • I honestly dunno how to reply to this. Its almost kinda trollish.

        It wasn't intended to be. But I have significant real world experience with Java servlets, and based on that, I would seriously advise anyone contemplating them to think again.

        Java is a premier language for web applications (especially large, enterprise scaled applications).

        See that's precisely where I wouldn't use it. I'm sure it's fine for noddy little applications, but when you need to scale things up, you start to see the problems. P

  • tired.com [tired.com]. A simple riff on "unread" would be perfect.
  • I've only used SourceForge, but a google searh returned a list [150m.com] and a discussion [advogato.org] on the topic.
  • Ethelraed is going to have a field day... I bet he's alread cracking open the champagne and sings loudly about his doings on the interweb-thingy. This of course does not make BoE happy, nor his neighbours ;-)
    • This of course does not make BoE happy, nor his neighbours ;-)
      Nor those in the rest of Europe...I'm sure even *you* can hear his off-key caterwauling!
    • Actually, I knew about it for some time (FK e-mailed me about it when I first flippantly "suggested" it).

      So the partying was over a long time ago. Didn't you see it in the newspapers? ;-)

      Cheers,

      Ethelred

  • Cool name.

    Don't forget the recipe server!
  • FK e-mailed me about it back when the subject first came up, and I'm flattered that that's the name he chose. Even if it's really because the name itself is kinda cool, ignoring any connection to me. Which, if you ignore the connection to me, that just makes the name a lot cooler anyway. Or something.

    You take care'a that name, FK, or I will sue for alimony. Or something.

    Cheers,

    Ethelred

  • by sql*kitten (1359) *
    Cool name :-)
  • by ces (119879)
    To get something up quickly you might want to consider using Scoop (as used by Kuro5hin and KOS among others).

    While Scoop is written in Perl, it appears to my eyes to be written in sane Perl as opposed to the hackish mess that is slashcode.

    The Scoop developer community [kuro5hin.org] is much more "out in the wild" than that of Slashcode in the sense that there are core developers with no formal connection to either Kuro5hin or Kos and features are being implemented that neither of those sites need.

    Unfortunately it does
  • I accidentally posted this to a frontpage article, when I meant to respond to your info on unread.org man. (FYI, if I can provide any assistance, I shall)

    ~snip~

    Hey FK, long time no msg.

    Anyhow, I'm getting ready to start work on an enterprise size portal system (non Slashdot related) and if you're considering Struts old, can you give me any insight into state-of-the-art with MVC in Java...? Anything with good scalability and flexibility without layer upon layer of framework abstraction.

    I've just started

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