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Yeah, I'm early, but I'm leaving this afternoon to go see my parents. And a warning, this is just random thoughts in random order...

Joey will probably take his first steps either this weekend or early next week, so that'll be a nice easter present to my folks.

Looking for a house is hard, unless you have a few hundred grand to toss around...

Anyway, I'm a little perturbed by the fact that the US is all happy about taking all kinda time off and holidays about the birth of Christ, yet when he died and resurrected (on the Jesus Christ MojoMeter, it ranks a perfect 10 people. Like, as in, the greatest thing he did for mankind!), the government doesn't even take the day off.

Ever notice how Good Friday is always a crappy day (weather wise)?

I want to reiterate Planesdragon's sig: Jesus of Nazareth did not die so we could enjoy eggs and chocolate bunnies!

And, as a reminder (in my slang terms) in case you didn't know (and this is from memory, so I may be wrong on specifics) yesterday (Holy Thursday for Catholics) was the last supper, and suffering in the garden. Around midnight Jesus was arrested, and Peter did a Zorro on a soldier's ear, but Jesus put it back on. At dawn, he was tried, sentenced to death by crucifiction. He walked the cross to the mountain, was nailed up to it, and died in about three hours (which is VERY fast for a crucifiction).

And I guess today's the best day to give you my fav verse. The one that you can read today and it isn't outdated. The teaching from the main dude himself: Matthew 5-7 The Sermon on the Mount.

Happy Easter folks!
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  • A frat was doing a donation drive by having students take their picture with a guy in an Easter Bunny suit. The odd thing: there were also guys in an "Easter Bear" and "Easter Pig" suits.

    Huh? I don't remember that... you know "Jesus and the Bear... and the Pig"

    At first I thought it was some bizarre furry convention ;p
    • there were also guys in an "Easter Bear" and "Easter Pig" suits.

      A little history on the date that we call Easter. Christians had this bad habit of getting killed in the years they were trying to get their footholds. A lot of people didn't like them. This is why people celebrate Jesus' birthday on Christmas or his resurrection on Easter. Those holidays existed long before Jesus was a twinkle in God's eye... er, maybe not that long before hand, but you get the idea.

      Easter was the Fertility Party. For
      • Great work, Xeri! As a refugee from catholic high school I think you hit all the valid points.

        Infact, the adoption of other pre-existing traditions and holy days (where did the x-mas tree come from? The Norse!)was part of early Christianity's attempt to proliferate like rabbits (another facet of the easter bunny! ;)

        this has some good info on Oestre, and it also has a lot of CRAZY BULLSHIT AT THE END OF IT! [got.net]
        here's a quote:
        In case you are still wondering what all this has to do with you living free or liv
      • Most of what you say is correct but I don't like the way you worded the last point-

        So, when Christians were being killed celebrating the birth and deaths of Jesus, they picked those holidays to celebrate so no one would notice they were celebrating something different. This is also why there is the tradition of giving presents on Christmas and food (especially sweets) on Easter.

        It was not Christians that picked the holidays, it was Emporer Constantine [yahweh.com], who was a Catholic (in that time there was definite
  • That's weird. In Finnish "Good Friday" is literally "Long Friday", so the meaning is pretty much the opposite.

    And the weather is great here, by the way. :-)
    • Yeah, logically, it should be "Sad Friday" and "Good Easter". I have no idea why its 'Good' unless you look at the big picture...
  • Good Friday is always a crappy day (weather wise)?

    Bright sunshine, blue sky, 26C, all the windows in the apartment are open and I'm having a day off. The fridge is *full* of beer and some coworkers are heading over for a party at my place tonight.
    I surely would like to experience one of your great days, if your crappy days are equivalent to "my good days".

    • Jesus of Nazareth did not die so we could enjoy eggs and chocolate bunnies!

      Now let me play the devils advocate on this one. Jesus died for our sins. Since "gluttony" is a sin and eating all that chocolate is clearly gluttony (hope Spirit00 doesn't read this one, she's gonna kill me!) So essentially, yes, Jesus died so that we could enjoy chocolate bunnies.

      Apart from that, it's not me who eats all that chocolate. Gimme a beer, I'll be happier.

    • Heh, maybe its just where I live. Good Fridays are always miserable. Like it rained hard last night, and there is a chill in the air, everything is still wet and murky, there's a heavy mist in the air. It just isn't a pretty day.
  • I want to reiterate Planesdragon's sig: Jesus of Nazareth did not die so we could enjoy eggs and chocolate bunnies!

    How do you know that the bible and all the things you've been taught were just a misinterpretation? Perhaps God's master plan was to put in motion an entire system of worship and creation of holidays to reward the good at heart people with some chocolate bunnies. Just a lot of people place a lot of weight on some old book and teach a lot of things does not make them true... it is your bele
    • FK, pardon me while I preach in your journal... or rather attempt to preach b/c I'm really not very good at it.

      Christians (I think) believe what they believe because they have experienced it. Let me illustrate. Believing something just because a book says it doesn't make the wardrobe in the bedroom really lead to Narnia. We read (or heard, or thought or whatever) that there were some wardrobes that led to Narnia, then we had reason to suspect that our wardrobe led to Narnia, but then, at that point, we
      • Liora.. I have to chime in here. I think it is great that you are experiencing God working in your life, which is certainly what a Christian should be. In fact, many Christians today are more concerned with being "right" than acting like Christans, but that's another topic altogether.

        At any rate, I caution anyone who places a significant amount of authority in experience (which I'm not saying you're doing entirely, don't get me wrong). The reason I say this is because if all we base our Christian faith o
        • I think most Christians have run across the problem of communicating the reason for their faith to others... My personal view is just that: It is a matter of faith, so I can't convince anyone based on God's working in my life (which he does), the historical basis of the Bible (which is solid), or the infallibility of the word of God (which I believe in, but is hard to prove, especially to a sceptic).

          The only way someone else is going to believe is if (after hearing the truth) God intervenes, and shows them
        • The reason I say this is because if all we base our Christian faith on is our experience, how are Christians any different than the rest of religions?

          Yes! That's always been my point, I don't see the differences. I honestly don't care how "you" (the collective you) go about being spiritual, its good enough for me that you are because of experience. Otherwise it is EMPTY RHETORIC. This is what divides the laws and histories of countries from religions- sure I obey the laws and I know the histories of a
        • Be careful when you say that Jesus fulfilled prophecies. Those who wrote down the accounts of his coming and death also knew these prophecies. You cannot be sure that he all, some, or even any of them.

          For every "proof" that circlulates through the Christian community about the historical accuracy of the Bible and Jesus, there is other "proof" that he didn't exist entirely, or that he didn't ressurrect.

          Scientific apologetics can never convince someone because if you proffer an argument, it will be counte

          • I think there are more proofs that Jesus Christ did exist and even ressurrected. Even some of the great nay-sayers of the 2nd, 3rd, 4th century admitted that Christ had a profound influence. In fact, until recently (such as the past 100 years) has there been any doubt that Christ really existed... As far as the ressurection goes, there have been falsehoods circulating about that ever since 36 AD - it even mentions one in the Gospels. Ultimately I can't physically *prove* that it happened, but no one can p
        • Three things:

          First, I disagree with your assumption that Christians are those that believe the things you said. Believing them is not enough. The Bible points out that even the demons believe in God (and the Word of God), but that doesn't mean that they will get to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. I am not going to go look up the exact verse right now because I don't have time, but in the book of James it says that "Faith without works is dead." Belief in the Word of God does not make you a Christian alone
          • Ok...

            God just really ran me through the ringer on this one. While I still think all the things that I said are true, it's really dumb for Christians to argue about stupid little details. The important thing, that we agree on, by very nature of calling ourselves Christians, is that we're all following Christ. We're supposed to collectively make up the church. All these little factions are really very silly. It's like disagreeing over favorite colors. We have some doctrinal differences, but as far as I
            • True, there are definitely better things to talk about... I wouldn't use the term "argue"! :)

              Thanks for the follow up post (I don't htink there was anything to apologize about, but apology accepted if that helps!)- I appreciate that and please let me know if you want to continue the discussion.
          • Liora, I read your post and I think you misunderstand what I was getting at, but I also read your later post and it sounds like you did got the right idea... regardless, I just wanted to comment on a few of the things to clarify.

            Believing them is not enough. The Bible points out that even the demons believe in God (and the Word of God), but that doesn't mean that they will get to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

            Of course I agree with you on this one. I think the scripture you were referring to is James 2:
      • You have experienced God?

        Maybe you just had a hole in your life - you were unable to live with the realization that your life is meaningless, and you will ultimately be nothing more than worm food? And so God - religion - made you feel like there was actually some purpose and destination?

        Bah, sorry.. of course, we've all heard the same things a million times. I've been to Church and I can't stand Christian bullshit. It just bothers me that so many people are deluded.
        • What if it were you that is deluded?

          As much as you can say Christian doctrine is blind, trite, and baseless, shared by billions for "comfort," the same can be said of your position.

          Start doing some critical thinking.

          • How can that be said of my position? I am in no comfort whatsoever. My life is meaningless. When I am dead, nothing I did will matter. If everyone on Earth committed suicide, it wouldn't matter. The rest of the world would be better off because of it.

            I don't believe in God or any religion because I think that it's based off of people trying to avoid the above fact.
        • You have experienced God?

          Short answer: You bet.

          Long answer: There are two things I would like to say. The first is that I don't know how to prove God to you. The second is that I don't want to. But what I do want to say is that imagine for just a minute that God existed and wanted to befriend you. If, that were really true, and he was healing the sick, feeding the poor, freeing the oppressed, and helping the hopeless, and he wanted to let you help, wouldn't that be the best deal in town? I woul

      • Turkish Delight.
  • Anyway, I'm a little perturbed by the fact that the US is all happy about taking all kinda time off and holidays about the birth of Christ, yet when he died and resurrected (on the Jesus Christ MojoMeter, it ranks a perfect 10 people. Like, as in, the greatest thing he did for mankind!), the government doesn't even take the day off.

    Yes they do. Easter is always on a Sunday, so they always are talking the day off. As for why this holiday isn't considered as huge or bigger than Christmas, ask the church

  • Spectator I: I think it was "Blessed are the cheesemakers".
    Bearded Man's Wife: Aha, what's so special about the cheesemakers?
    Bearded Man: Well, obviously it's not meant to be taken literally; it refers to any manufacturers of dairy products.

    As for walking, Hannah stood up when I walked in the door last night. Didn't grab anything, just stood up, looked around real quick and got back down.

    Quick note:
    After filming most of Life of Brian [imdb.com], they went to shoot the last scence, the Crucifixion, and all the sunny
  • by cyranoVR (518628)
    I want to reiterate Planesdragon's sig: Jesus of Nazareth did not die so we could enjoy eggs and chocolate bunnies!

    Yay, that means more for us infidels! Esp. Monday when it's 50%-75% off :D''' --drool

    On a more serious note, the Bible says that he rose on "the third day" but Saturday-Sunday is only two days (unless you somehow count Friday - when he was still alive?) Doesn't add up...
    • On a more serious note, the Bible says that he rose on "the third day" but Saturday-Sunday is only two days (unless you somehow count Friday - when he was still alive?) Doesn't add up...

      You have to count the days like the Jewish people of the day counted days. Any part of a day was considered the day, so Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Third Day.

      • And while making Jewish references, let's not forget that the last supper was the Passover seder.

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