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Comment: Re:Probably (Score 1) 761

by FitForTheSun (#41414123) Attached to: Can a Court Order You To Delete a Facebook Account?

Yeah. Putting people in jail is expensive too! (And keeping them there is a separate high cost!) The greater the punishment, the more we spend to assure justice. That's why you can get nicked for an undeserved traffic ticket but a judge will hardly hear you out, while if you get arrested you get more attention, if you're up for life you get more attention, and if you're up for death then you get the most of all. That makes sense to you, right? It makes perfect sense to me.

It turns out that justice is pricey.

Comment: Re:"Several Guns Were Found"? (Score 1) 416

by FitForTheSun (#41410077) Attached to: Calif. Man Arrested For ESPN Post On Killing Kids

If they made the threat then that's assault, technically, and if it is bad enough then they'll get arrested (that's arrested). The total lack of capacity to follow through is a positive defense in court (that's prosecuted). And if it is relevant at trial, then it is relevant in the article.

For instance, did you hear about that disabled octogenarian who used a walker and an oxygen tank, who made threats against -- uh -- the President or something. They arrested him (arrested), but eventually released him because they knew they couldn't win a trial (prosecuted). No jury would think the threat was credible. He was just a racist prick saying shit on the internet. If he were able-bodied and surrounded by guns, he might be in jail.

Comment: Re:Probably (Score 1) 761

by FitForTheSun (#41409991) Attached to: Can a Court Order You To Delete a Facebook Account?

Yep. Killing is the inexpensive part. The cost comes from the justice system. Alas, we don't want to just kill anyone, we want to be totally sure they are guilty first. We feel this way because of the number of convictions that get overturned on appeal.

It makes us feel good to kill very bad people, but it would make us feel bad to kill an innocent person. To avoid feeling so bad, we spend all that money to be sure.

Comment: Re:Probably (Score 1) 761

by FitForTheSun (#41409975) Attached to: Can a Court Order You To Delete a Facebook Account?

It's expensive because before we execute someone, we want to be super duper DUPER sure they are guilty. In our society we call it "substantive justice". Obviously we could kill a criminal for the cost of one bullet, but to be sure they are guilty, we have a hell of a lot of smartass lawyers fight about it for a long, long time. If, after that long time, the case still seems tight enough, then we kill the criminal, but by then it costs more than to just keep him in jail.

Comment: Re:overreach (Score 1) 761

by FitForTheSun (#41409917) Attached to: Can a Court Order You To Delete a Facebook Account?

"Constitutional is not synonymous with the opinion of the SCOTUS."

That's what I'm saying. Yes, it is. You're using a different definition of "Constitutional" than the definition used in our society.

"the constitution doesn't grant them sole right to judge what is or is not constitutional"

True: it grants them the final prerogative to judge what is or is not Constitutional, which is really what counts.

"that doesn't make them automatically correct in whatever they decide"

Again, all that means is "I disagree with the Court, so everyone should take my opinion instead of theirs." That's fine, it just won't get you very far.

Comment: Re:"Several Guns Were Found"? (Score 1) 416

by FitForTheSun (#41400435) Attached to: Calif. Man Arrested For ESPN Post On Killing Kids

"I don't even own a gun, but I sleep a lot better at night knowing that the men in black uniforms aren't the only people who have them."

Agreed. I do actually own a gun, but it is an impractical gun, locked in a box, in an inaccessible place, with no bullets. Even though I'm not a 'gun person' myself, I think the presence of 'gun nuts' makes the country better in many ways. It takes all sorts.

Comment: Re:"Several Guns Were Found"? (Score 1) 416

by FitForTheSun (#41400397) Attached to: Calif. Man Arrested For ESPN Post On Killing Kids

Mmm hmm. If you have tools of death, then your threats of killing have increased plausibility.

I refuse to accept that you are too daft to understand that. I am left to assume that you are simply pro-gun, like I am, but that for you it somehow causes you to ignore perfectly reasonable context like this.

If you are pro-drugs, like I am, it would nevertheless be foolish of you to object when a news article reads "James Q Public was arrested in his home yesterday after a police raid turned up three pounds of marijuana and over $15,000 in cash." It would be stupid of you to say "I love how the article points out that there was cash in the house, implying that somehow ordinary American citizens don't have cash."

Comment: Re:overreach (Score 1, Insightful) 761

by FitForTheSun (#41400039) Attached to: Can a Court Order You To Delete a Facebook Account?

Let me rephrase that.

"I know what is Constitutional, and if the Supreme Court disagrees with me, then they are wrong. Whatever I think is right and everyone should agree with me."

Yeah, dude, we all feel that way. We could fight about it, or we could appoint some people to sit on a panel and decide which blowhard is right and which blowhard is wrong. And in fact we did appoint those people, and we call that panel "The Supreme Court".

If you want to, you can do the incredibly difficult work of learning and working hard to get yourself onto that panel. Or, on the other hand, you can be a blowhard on the internet.

Some people claim that the UNIX learning curve is steep, but at least you only have to climb it once.

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