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Comment: Re:I don't care at this point, as a systemd refuge (Score 1) 277 277

by F.Ultra (#49963033) Attached to: The Unintended Consequences of Free Windows 10 For Everyone

Of course it logs it to the journal that is there it sends all data from stderr, stdout and syslog. It even collects output from other processes that have with the daemon to do and stores them together, like systemd own actions.

For example for nptd, here we can see that ntpd shutdown since it couldn't reoslve the dns names and systemd restarted it, it's a common problem with ntpd that it doesn't retry itself. Several of these lines comes from stderr

fultra@ubuntu:~$ journalctl -u ntp
-- Logs begin at mån 2015-06-22 18:39:49 CEST, end at mån 2015-06-22 18:52:45 CEST. --
jun 22 18:40:07 ubuntu systemd[1]: Stopped LSB: Start NTP daemon.
jun 22 18:40:08 ubuntu systemd[1]: Starting LSB: Start NTP daemon...
jun 22 18:40:08 ubuntu ntp[925]: * Starting NTP server ntpd
jun 22 18:40:09 ubuntu ntpd[933]: ntpd 4.2.6p5@1.2349-o Mon Apr 13 17:00:14 UTC 2015 (1)
jun 22 18:40:09 ubuntu ntp[925]: ...done.
jun 22 18:40:09 ubuntu systemd[1]: Started LSB: Start NTP daemon.
jun 22 18:40:09 ubuntu ntpd[938]: proto: precision = 0.106 usec
jun 22 18:40:09 ubuntu ntpd[938]: ntp_io: estimated max descriptors: 1024, initial socket boundary: 16
jun 22 18:40:09 ubuntu ntpd[938]: Listen and drop on 0 v4wildcard 0.0.0.0 UDP 123
jun 22 18:40:09 ubuntu ntpd[938]: Listen and drop on 1 v6wildcard :: UDP 123
jun 22 18:40:09 ubuntu ntpd[938]: Listen normally on 2 lo 127.0.0.1 UDP 123
jun 22 18:40:09 ubuntu ntpd[938]: Listen normally on 3 lo ::1 UDP 123
jun 22 18:40:09 ubuntu ntpd[938]: peers refreshed
jun 22 18:40:09 ubuntu ntpd[938]: Listening on routing socket on fd #20 for interface updates
jun 22 18:40:09 ubuntu ntpd[938]: Deferring DNS for 0.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org 1
jun 22 18:40:09 ubuntu ntpd[938]: Deferring DNS for 1.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org 1
jun 22 18:40:09 ubuntu ntpd[938]: Deferring DNS for 2.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org 1
jun 22 18:40:09 ubuntu ntpd[938]: Deferring DNS for 3.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org 1
jun 22 18:40:09 ubuntu ntpd[938]: Deferring DNS for ntp.ubuntu.com 1
jun 22 18:40:09 ubuntu ntpd[944]: signal_no_reset: signal 17 had flags 4000000
jun 22 18:40:11 ubuntu ntpd_intres[944]: host name not found: 0.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org
jun 22 18:40:11 ubuntu ntpd_intres[944]: host name not found: 1.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org
jun 22 18:40:11 ubuntu ntpd_intres[944]: host name not found: 2.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org
jun 22 18:40:11 ubuntu ntpd_intres[944]: host name not found: 3.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org
jun 22 18:40:11 ubuntu ntpd_intres[944]: host name not found: ntp.ubuntu.com
jun 22 18:40:15 ubuntu systemd[1]: Stopping LSB: Start NTP daemon...
jun 22 18:40:15 ubuntu ntp[1049]: * Stopping NTP server ntpd
jun 22 18:40:15 ubuntu ntpd[938]: ntpd exiting on signal 15
jun 22 18:40:15 ubuntu ntp[1049]: ...done.
jun 22 18:40:15 ubuntu systemd[1]: Stopped LSB: Start NTP daemon.
jun 22 18:40:24 ubuntu systemd[1]: Starting LSB: Start NTP daemon...
jun 22 18:40:24 ubuntu ntp[1457]: * Starting NTP server ntpd
jun 22 18:40:24 ubuntu ntpd[1465]: ntpd 4.2.6p5@1.2349-o Mon Apr 13 17:00:14 UTC 2015 (1)
jun 22 18:40:24 ubuntu ntpd[1467]: proto: precision = 0.175 usec
jun 22 18:40:24 ubuntu ntpd[1467]: ntp_io: estimated max descriptors: 1024, initial socket boundary: 16
jun 22 18:40:24 ubuntu ntpd[1467]: Listen and drop on 0 v4wildcard 0.0.0.0 UDP 123
jun 22 18:40:24 ubuntu ntpd[1467]: Listen and drop on 1 v6wildcard :: UDP 123
jun 22 18:40:24 ubuntu ntpd[1467]: Listen normally on 2 lo 127.0.0.1 UDP 123
jun 22 18:40:24 ubuntu ntpd[1467]: Listen normally on 3 eth0 192.168.0.3 UDP 123
jun 22 18:40:24 ubuntu ntpd[1467]: Listen normally on 4 lo ::1 UDP 123
jun 22 18:40:24 ubuntu ntpd[1467]: Listen normally on 5 eth0 fe80::226:18ff:feae:582e UDP 123
jun 22 18:40:24 ubuntu ntpd[1467]: peers refreshed
jun 22 18:40:24 ubuntu ntpd[1467]: Listening on routing socket on fd #22 for interface updates
jun 22 18:40:24 ubuntu ntp[1457]: ...done.
jun 22 18:40:24 ubuntu systemd[1]: Started LSB: Start NTP daemon.

Comment: Re:I don't care at this point, as a systemd refuge (Score 1, Offtopic) 277 277

by F.Ultra (#49958309) Attached to: The Unintended Consequences of Free Windows 10 For Everyone
Why does this clearly wrong statements keep getting posted? It should be well known by know by everyone that systemd has captured stderr and uses the exit status since day one. In fact the old SysVInit was the one that didn't capture stderr at all or cared about the exit status.

Comment: Re:Or.... (Score 1) 253 253

by F.Ultra (#49773579) Attached to: Leaked Document Shows Europe Would Fight UK Plans To Block Porn
In Europe (or at least in the Nordic / Scandinavian countries) a Sauna is not just a place to relax in but it's a place where you get to get clean. Historically Saunas where used before the invention of the shower or the bath tub. And I don't think that you shower or batch with your swimwear on in order to get clean in Australia?

Comment: Re:It's not Linux-based (Score 1) 175 175

Compiled with millions of drivers, filesystems and other functionality that this LiteOS kernel probably doesn't need yes but remove all that and it shrinks vastly in size. If LiteOS only have to support a single piece of hardware then they can remove lots and lots of stuff.

Comment: Re:kernel 10K (Score 1) 175 175

It's only > 2mb if you include tons of drivers and functionality that they probably stripped. Since it's a IoT for their own hardware they probably only have support for the very tiny subset of hardware that they have and drivers are a big part of the kernel.

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