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Comment: Re:False positive (Score 1) 693

by ExtraT (#34270806) Attached to: 200 Students Admit Cheating After Professor's Online Rant

I'd say that the evidence is pretty much bullshit - the guy admitted as such when he mentioned the "95% percent certainty". If you are only 95% percent certain and go after 100 people, then you pretty much agree that you will falsely accuse 5 people. This is unacceptable behavior.
Further more, not for a second can I believe that a seasoned professor would have such a fit about mass cheating - it happens all over the place and in many different ways and methods.
So, all this show of being upset is for two reasons: bully cheaters into admitting guilt and promote narking from the "good students".

This whole affair is quite pathetic, if you ask me -there plenty of other methods to deal with something like this, much more justly and much more effectively.

Education

200 Students Admit Cheating After Professor's Online Rant 693

Posted by samzenpus
from the people-get-what-they-deserve dept.
Over 200 University of Central Florida students admitted to cheating on a midterm exam after their professor figured out at least a third of his class had cheated. In a lecture posted on YouTube, Professor Richard Quinn told the students that he had done a statistical analysis of the grades and was using other methods to identify the cheats, but instead of turning the list over to the university authorities he offered the following deal: "I don't want to have to explain to your parents why you didn't graduate, so I went to the Dean and I made a deal. The deal is you can either wait it out and hope that we don't identify you, or you can identify yourself to your lab instructor and you can complete the rest of the course and the grade you get in the course is the grade you earned in the course."

Comment: Re:Israel is an interesting exercise in Game Theor (Score 1) 128

by ExtraT (#33882578) Attached to: Gambling On Bacteria

You assume too much. Specifically, about the religion part. For example, I'm an atheist, and majority of Israel's Jewish population is secular or atheist and doesn't really care for the religious claims.

The truth is that Jews as a NATIONALITY have had continuous presence in this land for thousands of years, and have a strong HISTORIC claim on it. And no sane and accepted historian can deny this, because it is based on undisputed archeological evidence.

Another thing that you probably assume is that you understand the persecution of Jews. Well, surprise to you: YOU DON'T. Only Jews who actually lived in countries with strong tradition of antisemitism can understand it. And, surprise-surprise, expatriates from these countries also happen to form the majority of Israeli population. Connect the dots yourself, if you have the brains.

Comment: Re:Israel is an interesting exercise in Game Theor (Score 1) 128

by ExtraT (#33882506) Attached to: Gambling On Bacteria

I was expecting my opinion critical of Israel to be smeared, so I'm not surprised...

I'm afraid I don't actually need to smear your opinion - your opinion is already smeared to begin with.
I'm not going to comment about any of the other shit you wrote here: if you lack the brains to see the problem with your so called "opinions", then I'm not the one to educate you.

Comment: Re:Israel is an interesting exercise in Game Theor (Score 1) 128

by ExtraT (#33877144) Attached to: Gambling On Bacteria

You remind me of an old Soviet joke:

Rabinovich calls the "Rememberance Club" (a known club frequented by antisemites) and asks (in a typical Jewish accent:

- Tell me, is it true that Jews sold Mother Russia?
- Yes, you dirty jew!
- Oh, great, where do I get my share?

Anyhoo, I never got any free passes. Instead, I was confronted with antisemitism from the age of 6. So don't tell me about any free passes. And I'm still waiting for my share of Mother Russia.

Comment: Re:Israel is an interesting exercise in Game Theor (Score 1) 128

by ExtraT (#33877094) Attached to: Gambling On Bacteria

I'm sorry, but this Jew (me) doesn't like to be called "it".

Also, he doesn't like to be labelled a homophobe simply because he's a Jew.
And I don't recall any free passes. Especially not from antisemites like him - his kind (the Ukranian antisemites) were murdering my relatives in WW2 while my grandparents fought against the nazis. So, yes, I'm labelling him an antisemite. Because I can tell. And you, apparently can't.

Deal with it.

Comment: Re:Israel is an interesting exercise in Game Theor (Score 1) 128

by ExtraT (#33876472) Attached to: Gambling On Bacteria

Wow, what an incredible collection of anti-Israel propaganda. A real overkill in fact.

Let's break it down to it's very mundane and often repeated components, shall we?

Yes, this has absolutely nothing to do whatsoever with Israel's treatment of the Palestinians including the blockade. Increase the pressure and use the attacks to justified the continued inhuman treatment.

Here we have the anti-Israeli double standard: Any military action done by Israel is inherently and purely OFFENSIVE in nature. Israel NEVER has any reason for self-defense and it is always the first one to attack. The hundreds of Israeli citizens murdered in cold blood are conveniently forgotten and the timeline of the conflict is inverted. No real proof of this "nice" schema is ever presented.

Truly, Dr. Goebbels would have been proud

Note the dehumanisation here. Again, this is in the context of the Palestinians being to blame for their own fate, so not only can we indulge in that human tendency to dehumanise our enemies, we can blame them for it as well.

Note the continual denial of clearly visible and openly stated facts: the continuous fall of Palestinians towards fundamental islamism, the clearly stated goals of Palestinian leaders ("Itvah El-Yahood! - Kill all Jews!), the openly stated tactics, preferred by Palestinians ("The womb of the Arab woman is my strongest weapon" - Yasser Arafat), The demographical statistics, etc. etc.
Truly, it's the DENIAL OF FACTS that is the clearest sign of the modern anti-sem... sorry, anti-Israeli. ;)

And that will be their last day.

I'm sure you would argue that this is an impartial statement of fact.

I can assure you that I'm getting a very different (and chilling) vibe from it.

And here we see another example of the modern left-wing anti-Israeli advocate: the idea that war can somehow be not chilling.
Come on, man - it's war. People die. People kill. People suffer. People hate. You expect it to be civilized?

Israeli society is right wing and getting more right wing. At this point in time, it's probably fair to say that it's inherently right wing, bordering on fascism and that while there are probably many decent Israelis they are quite clearly in the minority and will have no political influence in the remotely forseeable future, so I have no expectation whatsoever of any change in the opposite direction.

And over here is the funniest: our leftie historian managed to completely invert the actual history: he knows so little on the subject that he totally misses the inherently LEFT political system in Israel: It's founding, it's first 30(!) years of virtually unchallenged LEFT government, it's judicial system, almost COMPLETELY LEFT and, what's worse, virtually impossible to change in any way. The fact is, that Israelies have consistently voted LEFT throughout Israel's history, except in times when the left party in power has managed to screw things up beyond any recognition. So yeah, the government is rightwing right now - because the previous leftwing government has brought this most recent escalation of violence, and the people have had enough with the "peace at any cost" mentality.

Don't worry about it- I think there are a lot of people who have lost hope with Israel, myself included. And please don't tell me that you don't need my support or care what people like me think- that much is obvious.

Another example of the leftie's misguidedness: he thinks that his opinion should matter - it really shouldn't. It's our war, let us fight it out.

Yes, I'm impressed. You did it all on your own! The strength of Israel has absolutely *nothing* to do with the military and financial support of the world's richest and most powerful country.

And the last (but not least) - the all powerful, unquestionable assumption that Israel's existence is a result of the support of the almighty U.S of A. And USA is into it, of course, because of the Evil Jewish Lobby.

I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but USA's aid to Israel is very small. It's very little money, compared to Israel's budget, and most of it is in form of overpriced US military equipment - equipment that Israeli army would never have bought otherwise. Also, USA supplies aid to other countries in the area - all of them strategic enemies of Israel. A big example of this would be Egypt that gets an identical aid package.

Israel, of course, relies on international support, but not in the form of aid - but in the form of strong economic ties with pretty much ALL OF THE DEVELOPED COUNTRIES. And that's not due to some American or Jewish influence: unlike most all of it's geographical neighbours Israel actually has stuff to offer, besides it's natural resources.

Comment: Re:Israel is an interesting exercise in Game Theor (Score 1, Troll) 128

by ExtraT (#33875772) Attached to: Gambling On Bacteria

OK, then, you want to dance? Let's dance :)

- Majority of the settlements are built on land bought and paid for from it's owners. Please show me a verifiable case of land being "stolen", and also point out who, specifically, it was stolen from. I would like to remind you, that since there has never been any "Palestinian state", ownership of all the land on the occupied territories can be traced to a private individual.

- Gaza houses a belligerent population, implicated in many murderous attacks on Israeli citizens. I would like to point out, that prior to the late 90's (after the start of the so called peace process), Arabs living on occupied territories enjoyed practically unrestricted movement,

- Please provide me with a verifiable timeline that shows the barriers and blockades currently imposed on the Arabs in occupied territories as an OFFENSIVE MEASURE, as opposed to DEFENSIVE. Specifically, I would like to see evidence showing increase in attacks on Israeli civilians AFTER the measure was put into place.

- You mentioned white phosphorus. Please point me to a reliable source that specifies the exact type of the munition in question. Yes, I would like to hear the EXACT TYPE, preferable with some pictures showing the shell casing fragments.

As for the US interrogation techniques - it's not my concern. I would just like to say this: use of torture is, under certain conditions (read: high stakes), almost universal in any country. The US's problem is that they get caught all too easily where other, more politically repressed countries (read: most of the Europe) are typically not. A big problem for the US - one that must be fixed ASAP.

Comment: Re:Israel is an interesting exercise in Game Theor (Score 1) 128

by ExtraT (#33875488) Attached to: Gambling On Bacteria

The Arab/Israeli conflict is greatly supported by various mercantile interests: starting from suicide bombers blowing themselves for money (their families get it afterwards), continuing to various politicians making career out of the perpetual (and quite futile) "peace process", and ending with various corporations making money on various projects (weather peace or war related).

As for charity - any kind of money-based charity is questionable (and ultimately harmful), unless you have direct and total control on how the money is spent.

Comment: Re:Israel is an interesting exercise in Game Theor (Score 0) 128

by ExtraT (#33875288) Attached to: Gambling On Bacteria

Could you please point me to a single case of an Likud party member setting out official goals of exterminating all Palestinian Arabs, pushing them out into the sea, calling for kidnappings of Arabs to be held hostage and denouncing Arabs' (any arabs) right to live in the geographical palestine?

Comment: Re:Israel is an interesting exercise in Game Theor (Score 2, Interesting) 128

by ExtraT (#33874612) Attached to: Gambling On Bacteria

Oh, and by the way: what might be "game theory" to you is actually lives and deaths for people involved. You should be alittle bit more careful with your approach to the subject. It's basic ethics and morality - something that should come as second nature to any wannbe humanist ;)

Comment: Re:Israel is an interesting exercise in Game Theor (Score 1, Insightful) 128

by ExtraT (#33874554) Attached to: Gambling On Bacteria

It's interesting how you're pontificating on a subject you evidently know nothing about.

In fact, the reality of the matter is that the continuing war means doom only for one side - Palestinian. This follows from the fact that to support their war they had to continuously degenerate their own people further and further towards the stone age. At some point, they will be so low on the civilization scale that no amount of leftie wishful thinking would be enough to support them. And that will be their last day.

On the other hand, the Israeli society is stable and is getting more stable no matter how much you or other people might hope for otherwise. And this piece of news is actually a proof of that: A network of high end, independent educational institutions is a strong sign of a healthy, stable society.

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