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Comment: Re:New version! (Score 1) 261

by Eunuchswear (#49117629) Attached to: Linux Kernel Switching To Linux v4.0, Coming With Many New Addons

Then you don't know Debian either. 4583 packages depend on "systemd" - see http://lkcl.net/reports/removi...

Apparently I know a shit more about Debian that lkcl does. He claims those are packages that depend on libsystemd0, which largely exists to make sure packages don't depend on systemd. And he gets it wrong!

Just take the first example on that list, "0ad":

# apt-cache show 0ad | grep systemd
[ crickets ]

If you want to know what depends on libsystemd (but why care?)

# apt-cache rdepends libsystemd0 | wc -l
71

Alarming? Not.

Comment: Re:New version! (Score 1) 261

by Eunuchswear (#49114971) Attached to: Linux Kernel Switching To Linux v4.0, Coming With Many New Addons

Which is precisely what people are complaining about - more and more packages (like gdm3, gnome, etc) *needing* (being written to require) systemd... or some "shim" to get around it, which starts making packages less and less able to be ported to other OS's (BSDs, Solaris...).

gdm3 needs some functions that used to be provided by consolekit. Until very recently nobody could be bothered to maintain consolekit.

systemd provides those functions.

And that's systemd's fault?

Stop whining. Work.

Comment: Re:New version! (Score 1) 261

by Eunuchswear (#49114721) Attached to: Linux Kernel Switching To Linux v4.0, Coming With Many New Addons

That's exactly what it does.

No, it isn't.

Or, hell... just plug it into Google to save some time, since all the heavy lifting has been done for you time and time again, you astroturfing troll.

Plug what in? I've tried every way of posing the question I can think of and it all comes back to here or that one incorrect reddit post.

People are tired of submitting bug reports to a project that doesn't address them

Name one.

(Fucking slashdot went down again while I was posting this reply. Did they install systemd or something?)

Comment: Re:New version! (Score 1) 261

by Eunuchswear (#49113685) Attached to: Linux Kernel Switching To Linux v4.0, Coming With Many New Addons

Actualy that's not true for systemd -- if a process double forks and exits systemd can still capture tbe exit code -- that's (part of) what cgroups is for.

I can find no evidence of the mysterious 'dropped syslog' claims, nobody ever seems to have reported it as a bug and it doesn't happen on any system I have access to.

An adequate bootstrap is a contradiction in terms.

Working...