You should try taking that stick out of your ass, though that might leave a hole that could compromise your system.

And at my old job the worst crime was "slacking off". It depends who you ask. Stop talking nonsense.

Still, both are wrong.
 
Saying it's better/"more favorable to our freedoms" to download music than having large corporations preform some illegal activity is retarded.
 
The fact is simply that larger corporations/industries have the resources to prosecute "the little guys" and we're just butthurt we can't get back at them.

that *is* the general consensus, though few will want to admit it

same with downloading music, it has drm so they feel they're entitled to torrent it -- but still without paying, of course

and how long does it take / how easy is it to set up gentoo?

Apps like Eclipse or OpenOffice are pretty massive though. You can argue other apps with similar functionality (Office, Visual Studio) are just as big and are much faster, but they have custom memory management and aren't compiled from bytecode. It's the price of running platform-independent software.
 
Oh yeah and I think OpenOffice doesn't run on java, just *with* it for extended functionality. The whole system is p bad though.