I asked 2 times now what your point was
I don't ask a third time.
You made no point, as your writing was "incomprehensible" in other words: there was no way for me to get your point.
And that is my very honest answer
I asked 2 times now what your point was
I don't want to spent the time to disprove your "idiotic" ideas.
There are plenty of books and internet resources to educate your self.
Have a nice day.
Citation for what?
A no brainer?
Or do you think one made a big study and proclaimed this and I need to link it?
Obviously there is no such study.
The current "grid" and "plant" infrastructure is as it is because it was built like that.
Equally easy it would have been to build it more decentralized (but energy monopolies or even "government monopolies" prevented that)
What do you believe is the problem in going for wind power 50 years ago?
Lol, why would one plaster 'the state' (as in land) with turbines when he can do that off shore with less turbines? Or with bigger ones? Wind distribution at sea is much 'bigger' and more constant than on land.
So you want to tell me the californians have for every solar plant a similar sized coal plant as "back up"?
And you even insist in claiming "you have talked to a solar plant builder who told you so"?
First thing is definitely wrong, you can check that by listing the plants and compare them especially regarding output and time of construction.
To the second part I have no opinion. I met enough complete idiots here on
In Germany we don't have special back up plants for renewables
So you have no point to make?
Fine, topic settled.
Why should the costs be astronomical?
Sorry, in what strange world do you live?
What is so hard to believe that a very huge deal of steel production is based in recycling old iron/steel?
Do I need to make a list of plants in Germany that are electric powered?
Steel production from raw ore needs coal. Because the ore basically only is a fancy composition of rust, rust is iron + oxygen, so you have to get the oxygen out, for that CO (the evil little brother of CO2) is used. Luckily that is abundant when you burn coal/coke.
All other metal works are done with electricity
That is not the point. Why should I even need to ship power from day to night?
At night the power demand is half of daytime, in germany even less (it varies by country because if habits etc.)
Solar thermal ofc has 'storage' build in
I mean: if you don't want to follow the sun, you can put the solar panels high enough above the ground to plant plants below it (plants that like to grow in the shadow, and the solar panels can also be put sparse). OTOH mirrors for a thermal plant need to be sun following. Well, you somehow still could build them, lets say 10m, above the ground and still use the ground for plants, but it looks more complicated than cost saving.
Sorry, the mantra is: One west coast state and one east coast state can power the USA a hundred fold.
I have to admit, I exaggerated, perhaps that is not really 10 fold of the whole earth.
Lets say I need ten megawatts of generation at all times and I want to supply that power with solar. I must build a ten megawatt solar farm AND a ten megawatt coal, hydroelectric, or nuclear power plant to cover the system EVERY night. What is more, the solar system as pointed out will not produce as much some times which means the complimentary system must handle generation during the day as well sometimes.
Sorry, pretty wrong.
At night when there is no solar power
No one prepares or holds reserve 100% of the renewables as coal power, that idea is just nonsense and makes pretty clear you have o clue about power production and power grids.
I have no problem with "foreign" publications.
Most are simply "news" and wrong.
Unfortunately I don't get what point you want to make.
(it is easier to paraphrase a short part of a news report than linking the whole [wrong one])
Perhaps you should start reading up how wind farms work?
And more importantly, read up how long the coat of Oregon is
North / south, that is the coast, Oregon is roughly 600 km long.
A ten km wide stripe would be 6000 km^2.
That would power the whole planet. With wind, that is.
I suggest you leanr german and repost german press instead of idiotic foreign one.
In 15 years germany will be 100% renewable, mianly wind and solar, regardless of your idiotic web links.
There simply isn't enough windy places to power all of the United States 24/7. The sun doesn't shine at night, and we can't build a grid to someplace where it does.
Yes there is, two mayour coast states, prime example is Oregon and Florida, would power the USA with wind alone ten fold.
Well known fact since 50 years
I dont live in the USA.
And building wind plants would be done off shore, no land buying onvolved.
In case you would build wind farms on land you would rent small parts on the farmers fields