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Comment Re: Judging by the story so far... (Score 1) 351

looks to me like cherry picking.

http://www.wisegeek.org/what-is-the-difference-between-ethics-and-morals.htm

http://www.diffen.com/difference/Ethics_vs_Morals

I never claimed there was no relationship. I do claim they are neither the same nor interchangeable. But it is most certainly is true is that the terms are often misused by those who fail to understand the difference. Those are the people who use them interchangeably.

Comment Re: Judging by the story so far... (Score 1) 351

I respect your choice and change. Thank you. Mostly, I would consider a breach of a contract to be unethical, but not always. There can be failures, unpredicted events etc. which might see someone try to move the heavens and the Earth and still fail to meet obligations. That would not necessarily be unethical behaviour. The trouble here is that many (like ISIS) see their morals as "natural" and thereby override ethic and law. That tends to happen with many religious groups. So, the point remains (and I consider it proven) that murder is wrong because is unethical. Not because it is immoral. If you consider murder merely immoral then you have give a pass to ISIS, to slayers of abortionists and many, many more. I will not do so. There is no free pass.

Comment Re: Judging by the story so far... (Score 1) 351

No, murder is not a moral issue. It is an ethical one. Various moralities consider murder to be moral under certain circumstances. In fact almost every society has considered some murders are proper. Many still do. Many in the U.S. consider state executions to be moral. So, no I am not pretending anything and you can stop trolling.

Comment Re: Judging by the story so far... (Score 1) 351

(Joking)that does not quite work.... Because some physical discomfort can be so bad that it depresses the ability to think. But I would like to say that I agree with you very much and that I do consider the Dalai Lama to be a philosopher rather than religious. He makes sound logical, explained statements that are self consistent.

Comment Re: Judging by the story so far... (Score 1) 351

You turn out to be incorrect. Morals are local to groups society or culture. Ethics are not. Anti-gay people don't scream about bad ethics, they complain about "bad morals" while indulging in extreme unethical behaviour.

The morals of a Catholic differ from those of Jews. The morals of populations of "X" vary by location...

it is very often religious people who think as you do, that their christian(, Muslim, Hindu...) because they believe that they are right an therefore the good (moral) ones while the denomination down the road is immoral and evil. Thusly they confuse or cannot see the difference between morals and ethics.

If you cannot see the difference between morals and. ethics then in my opinion you are morally blind, and will be quite content to legislate your morals, rather than someone else's.

Anyway, Google "ethics morals difference" and you will be enlightened.

Comment Re: Judging by the story so far... (Score 1) 351

Do not confuse morals with ethics, or either with law. Laws are not, or should not be made on the basis of morals. ISIS is quite moral by their standards but not by our (separate) moral standards. Laws are generally made on the basis of ethical considerations not morals and it is those laws (when accepted and obeyed) that protect us from one another.

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