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Comment: Re:Simple. (Score 1) 619

by Danse (#37608766) Attached to: Congress May Permit Robot Calls To Cell Phones

Why does it matter? Blame it on whomever it makes you feel good to blame it on. Yay, those evil $OTHER_PARTY bastards did it, yay! The problem didn't go away. How can we fix it? Neither party as it stands today is even trying.

And the Tea Party people are just morons that will get yet another Republican elected. We're doomed.

Comment: Re:Simple. (Score 1) 619

by Danse (#37608248) Attached to: Congress May Permit Robot Calls To Cell Phones

The only power the tea party has is the vote. I think this is what is scaring so many people, the middle class has about had enough of deficit spending in Washington and is starting to organize.

That isn't what scares me. What scares me is that the Tea Partiers are so fucking stupid that they are voting for Republicans. One of the two parties (and really the worse of the two) that enabled the massive fraud that brought us to the brink of economic collapse. Who removed regulations in order to allow AIG sell insurance on bonds to people who didn't even own the bonds with no need to report the sales and no requirement for a capital reserve to cover that insurance? Republicans. Yet the Tea Partiers act like these guys are the ones that will save us. That or they let their social conservative interests blind them and start supporting insane people like Bachmann, or corrupt politicians like Perry, or lying nutjobs like Gingrich. How the hell are we going to change anything if we keep pulling from the same pool of assholes?

Comment: Re:Yes, for one thing, career selection bias exist (Score 1) 821

by Danse (#37403468) Attached to: Of Diamond Planets, Climate Change, and the Scientific Method

Does a person go into a climate science career if is he is not already very convinced climate change exists? That's like going into Astronomy despite believing there are no planets or stars in space.

That makes no sense at all. I'm pretty sure everyone knows we have a climate. Whether you believe climate change exists or not, there is plenty to study, and many more answers to find. There's also the potential to find and correct flaws in our current understanding, and to further refine it.

Comment: Re:So climate science is politics? (Score 1) 821

by Danse (#37390640) Attached to: Of Diamond Planets, Climate Change, and the Scientific Method

More accurately and appropriately, you'd have to approach it like an intro to world religions class. This is what people believe, without saying this is true, or this is a fairly tail. By an large, most universities do a pretty good job teaching it without requiring or prohibiting any belief from the students.

Yep, and I'm fine with that. It's only at the high school and lower grades that I don't think it should be introduced. At least not without the necessary foundations in history, language, literature, philosophy, logic, science, etc. Basically you're evaluating a whole mess of literature tied to belief systems. There are groups of people everywhere that actually believe that one or more of these various stories are absolutely true. Students need to be equipped to deal with that.

Comment: Re:So climate science is politics? (Score 1) 821

by Danse (#37390592) Attached to: Of Diamond Planets, Climate Change, and the Scientific Method

Considering that the impact on culture is huge, in fact the primary driver of our current civilization, I'd say there is plenty to teach.

I don't disagree with that, and most colleges/universities do have courses in these things. I don't find it terribly useful in primary schools, as they have so many more fundamental things to teach that it would be very difficult to approach this subject without requiring all sorts of other courses first. Not to mention, parents tend to get all worked up if their kid hears anything about religion other than their own particular brand of dogma. Once you get to college-level, it is more open, and the students should have at least a somewhat better foundation for it.

Comment: Re:So climate science is politics? (Score 1) 821

by Danse (#37389512) Attached to: Of Diamond Planets, Climate Change, and the Scientific Method

Oh... so ... close to the truth it hurts... Everything except the bolded part is not political. Everything in the bolded section is, as its making a value judgement on religious beliefs who are protected under the constitution: a political document. Public schools *can* teach science. They cannot tell students which, if any religion is true or false.

I'll give you the word "outmoded", as it does represent a value judgement. I would substitute "ancient" instead probably. The statement is basically correct though, that religion shouldn't be taught in schools, unless it's specifically a study of such myths (aka fairy tales). There's no real evidence to support them as anything else, so aside from simple understanding of the stories, their literary value, or their impact on culture, there's not much to teach. You have the constitutional right to talk to whatever imaginary friends you like. You just don't get to advertise those friends in the schools.

Comment: Re:constitution also protects: (Score 1) 473

by Danse (#37258326) Attached to: Mass. Court Says Constitution Protects Filming On-Duty Police

Because it doesn't show that the government can do something and do it efficiently, it only shows that someone with a lot of money and a lot of computers spread across a geographical network can create a worldwide network.

It shows that government can do something unbelievably valuable, that others can't or won't invest in. We've all benefited immensely from it though.

I don't believe there really IS a GAS SHORTAGE.. I think it's all just a BIG HOAX on the part of the plastic sign salesmen -- to sell more numbers!!

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