If you are developing an app that hyperar believes "should not be on the web", then how should you reach users of Windows without "writ[ing] code for Windows"? In all but the most niche cases, charging $700 for the app and shipping a free Mac mini with it is out of the question.
Except that's exactly why people use jQuery: to ensure that "DOM-crap or stuff relating to inputs" works for all viewers.
FWIW (for those less experienced devs/engineers), most JS frameworks are bullshit, replicating functionality found in the browser.
Only if you are willing to fire customers who use outdated browsers on unsupported operating system. Some of this functionality isn't in IE before 9.
I'm not advocating reinventing the wheel, I am advocating not using a wheel when you walk next door.
Some people routinely use a wheel to walk next door. Likewise, on the web, it's wise to make your web application accessible to people with disabilities.
How is "This application is not available for your platform" a better experience?
Business app?, desktop, using web services.
Good luck getting users of anything but a Mac to run an app developed on and for a Mac. Web is more cross-platform than native.
.net works from XP to 8.1, and it'll work on 10
But how well does
Which is why there is only one framework for desktop apps.
Yeah, you don't need a framework to do basic things
The same is true of the web so long as you aren't trying to support ancient IE.
but when your "users" are more properly called "customers" -- or even more important, "potential customers" -- then some web dev's desire to preach the gospel must take a back seat to doing the job the way it needs to be done, rightly or wrongly.
There are customers you want, and customers you ought to fire. Users of Internet Explorer before version 9 are probably using Windows XP, an operating system that cannot run IE 9. This means they're less likely to spend money on replacing a decade-old unsupported system with known security vulnerabilities. This in turn means they're less likely to have disposable income to buy your product. It also means they're less likely to care about the security of the payment information with which they buy your product, which can lead to an increased rate of chargebacks.
Instead of throwing many small fragments at the browser and stealing user cycles to cobble it all together, just serve up the content already.
I have served the document. Now the user has activated a control to expand details of a particular part of the document. How should this click be processed?
Or I have served the document. Now the user has opted into real-time updates of part of the document. How should these updates be served?
Across the varied tapestry of Christianity, there's an awful lot that has me shrugging.
In defense of Roman Catholicism/Eastern Orthodoxy, I'll take the hit that the Evangelical "tradition" is drab and has just as many challenges as the "high" churches, albeit different ones.
Not out to offend you. In any case, we've nothing mutual to prove. Our only judge is the Savior.
Degree is irrelevant.
So, you're arguing that the common cold is stage 5 cancer?
Or executives, or pirates, or anyone with a "clever" idea...
Pretty much, it's the natural state of humans to believe themselves to be better than everyone else.
Yes, it absolutely does. It ties functionality together in a way which is designed to be difficult to tease apart specifically because of NIH.
That's not a helpful reply. SystemD does not resemble "The Windows way". It's a long time coming fix to something that's been considered creaky and crappy now for about 20 years. It integrates things that shouldn't have been separate in the first place. Is it really the "Unix way" for instance to handle login shell sessions only if they come in via serial ports or the framebuffer/USB keyboard, but not via TCP sockets?
It's tying functionality together because it's the same functionality, and it shouldn't be replicated in three different places, managed by eleven different daemons, with 871 different security models.
Windows way? No. It doesn't resemble Windows even slightly.
Your ilk (what you vote for) are identical.
No. I'll give you kind, but not degree. Her Majesty is major league, compared to the T-ball players around her. Irrespective of party.