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Comment: Sorry, but no (Score 1) 225

by CyranoDeBergerac (#37415612) Attached to: Wild Parrots Learning To Talk From Escaped Pet Birds

Neither Washoe nor any other non-human primate has learnt sign language in any meaningful way -- not anything that stands up to a bit of critical review. They were certainly smart -- smart enough to learn "If I mimic enough of these signs eventually someone will give me a banana". They were also followed around by credulous 'researchers' who were eager to interpret any hand wave as highly significant, and who in fact so credulous that they didn't notice that most of the time the primates were simply mimicking back to them a gesture that they had just made.

If you want an assessment of how close they were to using sign language, ask someone for whom sign language is a first language to take a look. Without exception, native signers are unimpressed.

As far as parrots go, they're not learning to talk, or learning words -- they're learning to imitate sounds. There's no difference, as far as the parrot is concerned, between "polly want a cracker" and a squawk.

There are lyrebirds near where I live which have learnt to make laser sounds from when there was a laser skirmish being run in the bush. Hearing them make laser sounds at each other is amusing, but no-one ever suggests that they have learnt to play laser skirmish from humans and therefore lyrebirds must have the same game-playing abilities as humans.

Comment: Nothing wrong with that (Score 2) 193

by CyranoDeBergerac (#36580244) Attached to: Is Google Playing Fair With Groupon, et al?

Google doesn't have a monopoly in e-mail. Not even close. They can - legally and ethically - use their e-mail service to market whatever they want to you. If they want, they can fill your inbox with spam about Google Docs, Google Maps, Android. If you don't like it, go somewhere else.

I'm getting a bit sick of bogus "anti-competitive" stories. Restrictions on this sort of thing only apply *if you're a monopoly*. If you're not, you can do all the cross promotion and bundling you want. Consumers get to decide whether they like it, and whether they want to take their business elsewhere. You're not obliged to 'play fair' with any of your competitors.

The bomb will never go off. I speak as an expert in explosives. -- Admiral William Leahy, U.S. Atomic Bomb Project

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