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Comment: Re:Hi speed chase, hum? (Score 1) 443

by ClintJCL (#47440673) Attached to: The First Person Ever To Die In a Tesla Is a Guy Who Stole One
No, that is not the only way to protect the innocents. You make it sound like once someone starts driving, there is no way to protect innocents. I don't know if you're incredibly unimaginative or a deliberate asshole. Many departments don't give chase for certain offenses. For instance, private property theft of already-insured property is not worth violence over. (Oh sure, for the *owner* it is, not for the rest of us.) Most stolen cars are not recovered via a dramatic and dangerous chase. You can surveil a vehicle and wait until the driver gets out on foot. The gas tank wont last forever.

Casual googling seems to imply that about 1/3rd of deaths in police pursuits are people not in the fleeing vehicle. If this is to recover already insured, stolen vehicles, these people died to help an insurance company CEO stay rich. And oh, I guess the cars got back to the original owner, bashed up. Protecting private property shouldn't involve the deaths of anyone other than the criminal. Especially if it's already insured.

Comment: Re:Hi speed chase, hum? (Score 1) 443

by ClintJCL (#47440333) Attached to: The First Person Ever To Die In a Tesla Is a Guy Who Stole One
No, my argument is not that. At the point where your first sentence is you shoving words in my mouth via a false dichotomy you just made up, should I even bother to type this conversation? Nevermind the fact that he *was* being pursued. They stopped. That doesn't mean it did not start. He would not have been driving like that if they had not started an unnecessary (in this day & age of technology & tracking) chase. That was the original comment that started this entire thread -- someone questioning the wisdom that this is how we handle the situation. At some point, this morphed into you telling me that I'm asking for police to shoot people for not yielding. Go fuck yourself.

Comment: Re:Hi speed chase, hum? (Score 1) 443

by ClintJCL (#47439349) Attached to: The First Person Ever To Die In a Tesla Is a Guy Who Stole One

"Wouldn't it be much better to deploy a helicopter, drone or other means of tracking the car from a distance, and not risk killing several bystanders in a crash?"

*other guy responds, more or less stating non-death penalty crimes should be death-penalty crimes because people like their cars, despite the risk of innocent bystanders being killed which that was the initial and main point of Koyaanisqatsi's post, and the first thing he talked about*

Are you up to speed yet? I can't help it if there are multiple people in the thread whose heads the point whooshed over. I've always reviled my fellow americans for being so incredibly over-punitive as to actually blind themseles to the unintended consequences; and it's been a problem in American history, especially the last 2 generations. But I didn't know that it worked online, too. So blinded by the punitive aspect as to miss Koyaanisqatsi's central point.

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