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Comment: Re:Not France vs US (Score 1) 258

I can get wanting to protect something, but legally blocking something is just clinging to the past. I'll bet there used to be dozens of small buggy whip makers throughout France; too bad for them. It wasn't big business that killed them, it was technological progress. Now, if the people want to preserve the small shops, that's fine, they should shop at the small local shops. I sure do. I don't want to see video stores go extinct due to Netflix so I shop at mine, and I don't want to see book stores go away so I shop at my local bookstore. Just bought a book from them to start reading soon. But I'm not about to block anyone else from doing anything. The justification is understandable, but not sufficient. If the people of France really do not want free shipping, they can continue to shop at the small stores. If they do not, well, then I guess that shows what they really want.

Comment: Re:google doens't need to stir up dissent (Score 1) 74

by ChromeAeonium (#47390347) Attached to: Google Reinstating Some 'Forgotten' Links

Corporate issues have no bearing on this. Newspapers, radio stations, and television stations are also for profit entities but forcing them to remove articles or broadcasts is also censorship, or does their corporate nature make them fair game too? This is actively obfuscating public information to censor it.

Comment: Re:google doens't need to stir up dissent (Score 1) 74

by ChromeAeonium (#47387465) Attached to: Google Reinstating Some 'Forgotten' Links

So to you freedom is telling other people what they can and can't say and what public information they can and can't access because the truth could be abused? From where I'm standing it looks like you're trying to tell me that censorship is freedom, and it sounds more than a little Orwellian to me.

Comment: Re:And hippies will protest it (Score 1) 396

by ChromeAeonium (#47249953) Attached to: "Super Bananas" May Save Millions of Lives In Africa

Wow, for a second there I thought you were going to cite something other than the infamous Schmeiser case where the guy knowingly and intentionally saved seed he knew was cross pollinated. Accidental cross pollination does not equal knowing reproduction. That's like saying you can get sued for home movies and citing someone who got in trouble for recording inside a theater. You left out the most critical detail.

Simply put, they can't, and the result is suing people for storing seed.

Offhand I would speculate that, if forever reason, a farmer was trying to age seed to decrease the viability for whatever unknown reason they could simply check some records and find out if the numbers add up. It's an odd situation you've come up with, perhaps you could throw me a shred of something beyond blatant speculation.

Remember, if it happens just once, you can no longer say it doesn't happen.

Okay then, prove that it's happened once.

Comment: Re:And hippies will protest it (Score 1) 396

by ChromeAeonium (#47246811) Attached to: "Super Bananas" May Save Millions of Lives In Africa

That's an ignorant argument though. It's like telling a doctor not to bandage a slit wrist because it doesn't fix the underlying problem. No one is saying these types of things should be permanent, they're just to keep people healthy until economic development can provide a better diet. Somehow I doubt the people this would help are going to play the nirvana fallacy. Your cost claim is ridiculous. It costs a lot less to make a GMO than to fix a shitload of socioeconomic and political problems. As for your corporate issue, this is developed by a university funded by a charity. Perhaps you should RFTA before making assumptions. You've just justified the GP's post.

Comment: Re:And hippies will protest it (Score 3, Insightful) 396

by ChromeAeonium (#47246733) Attached to: "Super Bananas" May Save Millions of Lives In Africa

I mean, have hippies even started protesting this?

Not yet, far as I know, but since every GMO that has ever made it close to commercialization has been protested, I don't see why this should be any different.

And it IS a fucking strawman argument.

It would be if there were not first world activists who actually think that the poorest people on earth should just go buy some healthier foods. There is a reason why people who have made it their life's work to combat starvation and malnutrition are taking the route of Golden Rice and other biofortified crops (and it must also be said that the non-GMO biofortified crops escape all the controversy, almost as if the arguments against the GMO ones have nothing to do with their actual properties and everything to do with an irrational bias against their origin)

There are concerns about whether it will affect the fertility of the soil.

No, there aren't. Genetic engineering is not a black box. I don't see how beta carotene production is going to impact the soil. Sounds like a bullshit claim some clueless anti-GMO activist pulled out the usual place. I highly doubt this rice will be any different than any other rice, on average, in terms of soil impact.

ignore the lunatic fringes in any controversey

If we do that then there is no controversy. This is like creationism, or vaccine rejection. You can reject certain phylogeny, or take issue with particular vaccines, and you can make valid criticisms about certain aspects of some GMOs, but the movements as a whole are without merit.

Comment: Re:Don't mess with God's design!!!!! (Score 1) 396

by ChromeAeonium (#47246587) Attached to: "Super Bananas" May Save Millions of Lives In Africa

You jest, but many people believe that modern day crops are natural. Strawberries, wheat, broccoli, corn, all man made, via genetic alteration and hybridization. Many more crops are what a chihuahua is to a wolf. If conventional breeding were invented today, it would be outlawed.

Comment: Re:Why not just take vitamin pills? (Score 1) 396

by ChromeAeonium (#47246485) Attached to: "Super Bananas" May Save Millions of Lives In Africa

If your goal is helping people become food secure and self sufficient, a reliance on vitamin pills doesn't exactly help in the long term. As an aside, I find it funny how many people (not necessarily the parent poster, but a lot) who claim to support food security issues are quick to talk about keeping people in developing countries dependent on aid once the topic of GMOs that could help them comes up.

Comment: Re:And hippies will protest it (Score 3, Informative) 396

by ChromeAeonium (#47246457) Attached to: "Super Bananas" May Save Millions of Lives In Africa

Because the argument that GMOs are these evil terrible things that you should totally give us your money to fight is going to be a harder sell once you've got news stories talking about how they are saving the lives of children whose only crime was being born in the wrong part of the world. Golden Rice is a big deal to many in the anti-GMO movement, which just goes to show you how little the 'not anti-biotech just anti-Monsanto' line goes.

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