I know I'm going to get flamed to hell and back for this, but I contend that none of these shows are *real* science fiction. I've long argued that even Star Wars isn't science fiction, and that's kind of why I hate it. The main conflict in any science fiction story should arise from, y'know, science. Not whiny politicians pondering who they should attack next or who will attack them next. You could pretty much replace the Death Star with gunpowder, the Millennium Falcon with a sailboat, and the evil Empire with some sort of old timey monarchy, and you pretty much have the same fundamental story. The same kind of replacement trick is a little harder with something like nanotechnology and the grey goop scenario (though certainly not impossible), giving it much stronger leg to stand on as 'science fiction. So perhaps 'scifi' writers should STOP RECYCLING STORIES WE'VE ALREADY SEEN BEFORE!