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Comment: Re:Summary is Troll Rant (Score 1) 375

by i kan reed (#47965883) Attached to: How Our Botched Understanding of "Science" Ruins Everything

Because absolutely any of what you just attributed to me is something I've ever said in any context whatsoever. Christ.

The more that people like you claim that God is made obsolete by science, the more that everyone else thinks that science is just like another religion.

Let's focus on this, because I think you have me confused with a certain German philosopher. That's never been a sentiment I've expressed. Look at what you're trying to say: "Because you don't uncritically accept my religion, you're clearly religious." It makes no sense.

Like your sig says it's hard to reply meaningfully to your "questions" because they're built on implied assumptions that are so clearly contradictory, it's a bit like proving a square has 4 sides.

The only point I actually made in the post you're replying to is that people claim the systems of science are somehow discriminatory, and that they tend to be crazy. You didn't even begin to address that. Instead you addressed some imagined evil atheist you thought you could just rhetoric bomb. It's silly.

Comment: Re:Summary is Troll Rant (Score 1) 375

by i kan reed (#47965703) Attached to: How Our Botched Understanding of "Science" Ruins Everything

I think you misunderstood.

The primary thesis is that failing to live up to standards and practices is allowed, but it also tends to suggest or hint that you're not doing your job well. So user Chris Mattern was arguing a technicality that overlooks the importance of the items.

I'm not trying to deal in absolutes.

Comment: Re:A few hundred extrasolar planets (Score 5, Informative) 52

by i kan reed (#47965575) Attached to: Astrophysicists Identify the Habitable Regions of the Entire Universe

No one "assumed" that. There's a fuck-ton of evidence for the big bang and universal expansion. And the current model is a reaction to that information.

Off the top of my head:
1. Cosmic microwave background radiation matching what the models suggested there would be had the universe expanded from a singularity
2. Redshift of distant objects being proportional to their distance
3. Overall concentration of elements heavier than those produced in a super-nova matching expected levels for the super-high energy environment immediately following the big bang
4. The apparent distances of the furthest objects in the "visible universe" corresponding to about 14 billion light years in distance

Now before all these observations, the de facto assumption was a Newtonian model, where gravity and momentum kept things in a constant near perfect eternal balance, with the universe having an unknown age. When hubble came up with the Big Bang, he was attempting to address the discrepancies that model had with reality.

Comment: A few hundred extrasolar planets (Score 5, Interesting) 52

by i kan reed (#47965317) Attached to: Astrophysicists Identify the Habitable Regions of the Entire Universe

And suddenly you can start extrapolating on the whole damn universe. I like how science works like that. You start having an understanding of something, and you can use that in conjunction with the theory that best predicted it to suddenly have a pretty good guess about everything else.

It's the nice reality of science compared to the complaining about it a couple threads down.

Sure the theory's wrong, but we don't know how yet, and our guesses are just so much better than they were a decade ago.

Comment: Re:Summary is Troll Rant (Score 1) 375

by i kan reed (#47964903) Attached to: How Our Botched Understanding of "Science" Ruins Everything

It's a bit like saying "Just because you're using a double-entry bookkeeping on your financials, you're not doing accounting." While true in a strict sense, you'd be a pretty rubbish accountant if you didn't. It's a standard and practice that exists for good reason.

Or to be more topical to our audience, "Just because you're using version control software doesn't make you a software engineer." Again, strictly true, but when you're not, it raises serious questions about your ability to manage a software project.

Comment: Re:In lost the will to live ... (Score 3, Insightful) 375

by i kan reed (#47964849) Attached to: How Our Botched Understanding of "Science" Ruins Everything

We've veered way off topic by now, but since non-religious ethical systems is one of my favorite things to talk about, I'm still going to reply.

Non-violence can be derived from any ethical position that views others as equal to yourself in all ways. There's a certain naivety to it, but that doesn't make it Christian in origin or purpose, and I think asserting that it does sells Christians short.

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