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In this instance, by failing to read the wind, Dice bared this truth to all of us; reminded us that this community isn't really ours so much as it is theirs. Absolutely that was a hurt to the community.
Now that's something that I can take to the bank.
You see, I lost that aspect of it when I was seeing people posting line after line of "Fuck Beta", often anonymously, and often seeming to offer insults to anybody who felt differently.
You, on the other hand, have answered my questions without questioning my intelligence, or heaping scorn and abuse on my head for daring to have a different opinion, or generally resorting to name-calling, so I don't think you qualify for "bitter vituperation". <grin> Rather, you qualify as someone who helped me decide that this site is worth staying on. Thanks!
You're a fucking idiot. Slashdot isn't about the articles and it isn't about the fucking pathetic summaries. Slashdot is about the user-generated content. Slashdot is the comments.
Now, you think all that time spent by knowledgable members posting all that good stuff comes free? People invested their time, care and attention here. Slashdot isn't a fucking TV. Slashdot is a community.
The reason the response was negative and loud is because the beta makes it harder to follow threads. It makes it harder to follow discussion context. It makes it harder to comment within the discussion context.The beta redesign ruins the community experience. Dice is trying to turn Slashdot into another Digg or Reddit. Soon, you'll be flooded with ads you can't turn off, looking for the useful, informative and interesting comments that used to be posted here. Fuck that shit.
TL;DR: FUCK BETA!
Now, at least some reasoned, if seemingly over-wrought, debate.
You argue that the content, being user-provided, will go away if people are unable to see the content organized in a sensible fashion. Okay, I can buy that. I also hadn't considered that since the content is provided by users, they might have a reason to be a bit more passionate about how their thoughts are presented.
What I don't get is the need for insult to anybody who disagrees, or the call to leave Slashdot in droves even after they acknowledged that the beta was not working out and removed it.
And, again, I submit that you have validated my other point. Bitter vituperation towards the failed beta, even after it's gone, may do as much to drive away readership as the beta
You have put a name to my pain, sir/madam.
I realized that the "Beta sucks!" chorus was bothering me, not just because it was a huge overreaction to, as you pointed out, a _proposed_ change to a _free_ site.
The thing that bothers me the most is that there seems to be almost a competition to show who can be the most obnoxious in registering their objections... from people who went through "gamer shaming" in high school, insults about nerdiness through college, and what not. It seems that these are people who have wanted to strike back at a handy target.
Like the French Bourbon dynasty when they were restored to power after Napoleon's defeat, they seem to have remembered everything, forgotten nothing, and learned nothing.
Someone has a new hammer and every problem is looking like nail...
And then they discover the screwdriver, and declare the hammer to be obsolete.
We can do it that way, sure. It'll be just as effective as weighing each guy (with or without carrot nose of course) against a duck.
Yes, but with the cage match, we can make a lot more money from sponsoring, ticket sales, and broadcast rights. The potential audience for the duck weighing is probably not so much (although there would probably be some overlap).
Simmer down? Simmer down?
How dare you tell me that I am over-reacting! Who gave you the right to judge whether my honestly-held opinions are or are not relevant to the situation?
By God, it's people like you who oppress us and censor us by saying that, after we denounce you for Godless Communist heathens, mindless socialist prats, and other names that are considered unsavory by the obviously-biased mainstream media, perhaps we should modify our language.
(Did I forget that <sarcasm> tag again? Oh, that's embarrassing...)
Seriously, though... your point is well taken. Slashdot hasn't always been so great with article summaries - but said summaries are also usually written by the submitter, so sometimes one can find an axe being ground.
As for overwrought expressions... the Internet is the voice of the world, and there are those who seem to think that the only way to be heard distinctly is to scream everything.