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Comment: Re:There is no denying the Earth is getting hotter (Score 1) 877

by Candyban (#38782081) Attached to: 2011 Was the 9th Hottest Year On Record

Man has a nasty habbit of thinking the things he does result in unrelated outcomes ... do a special dance ...

And I suppose this too is all based on hard science? You probably agree, as nobody disagrees (including oil lobby), that global climate change is a fact. The only discussion is about who/what is causing it.
In your rain dance example. What scientists are saying is that we should STOP our dancing ritual because it is raining too often. Science shows the rain is not caused by the dance, but by the small ash particles coming out of the fire which go into the clouds and start forming droplets. So because YOU do not understand the science and cannot see the relation between the "dancing" and the rain does not mean you should ridicule those who actually did the research.

Any year without a winter is going to be warmer on average than any year with a winter

Yes, that is why we had the hottest decade on record with most of the extremes in the last 12 years. But yeah, you can ignore the facts and go with whatever works best in your head.

I am saying that it has been warmer and it has been much colder

Did the warming happen as quickly as it does now? What was the impact on life on earth? Are you 100% sure we are NOT causing or amplifying it? I am quite sure we are AT LEAST contributing to it without having done any hard research.

Maybe we should consider more natural reasons for the extremely recent rise in temperature and stop wondering which dance moves caused the rain

Then why bother? Why spend time/money/resources to find a cause which we can't change anyway? Or maybe you should take a closer look at the real science/big picture (fire) and not get distracted by the music and the waving feathers.
Why is it so hard for you to even consider we MIGHT be causing or contributing to it? Remember the hole in the ozone layer? Remember the acid rain? They were all natural phenomena? How many species are extinct due to human intervention? If you believe we have zero impact on our environment, I know which way the grade average of your class went when you stayed home.

I suck at spelling and Firefox's spell check is not working all of a sudden

Maybe you should not try to find what you did to break it, but find someone/something else to blame ;)

Comment: Re:There is no denying the Earth is getting hotter (Score 1) 877

by Candyban (#38781387) Attached to: 2011 Was the 9th Hottest Year On Record

Wat does this prove about the cause? Nothing really

Wrong. This proves that whatever is causing global warming is still here.

many such climate changes prior to mankind having the ability to cause it

Yes, and each time it lead to massive disruption in the way life was organised on earth. You suggest we do like the dinos and go 'meh' so in 100 million years our bones are dug up by giant intelligent insects who will be thinking what "natural disaster" caused us to disappear (warning: dramatised).

Wat is apparent that certain parties r using theories of a correlation to force change upon the masses which amounts to control

I feel like a repeat of history. Remember back in the days when it was just "mad/fearmongering scientists" who claimed tobacco and asbestos were cancerous while the nice, honourable and moral industry said everything was hanky dory and we should continue to use their products. Now when people/economies are hooked on fossil fuels, ONLY the oil industry is trying to convince us that everything is hanky dory and we should continue to use their products.
Unfortunately we do not have hundreds of thousands of planets to test/prove the theory statistically like was done with lung cancer.

There r some who r aligned in such a way to profit greatly from forcing these changes upon us

Like whom? Independent scientists all over the world are in agreement. Who gains from NOT buying/burning oil and reducing our fossil energy consumption? Perhaps you should turn around the question. Who is losing when we change our ways. At which side of the argument are they and how many (truly) independent supporters do they have?

We have absolutely no idea whether we r causing this and absolutely no idea whether there is anything we can do to stop it

When we burn oil/coal/... it is a fact that heat and CO2 is released in the atmosphere. Although I doubt the amount of energy dissipated by heat will make such a great impact, the issue with CO2 is that it traps energy in the atmosphere which would otherwise be dissipated into space. The real problem with CO2 is that its effect is compounded and amplified. When more CO2 is released in the atmosphere, temperature will rise, when temperature rises, there will be more moisture in the air which is also a greenhouse gas. On top due to the higher temperature, the polar caps are melting releasing CO2 trapped in the soil. Adding more greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere. Additionally, since snow/ice is white, it reflects most of the light/energy. Reducing the amount of ice covered surface will increase the amount of energy the water/soil will absorb. More energy means more heat, more heat means ... it is a vicious circle.
Whether you think we caused it or not, we are DEFINITELY contributing to the problem.
Analogy: When there is a famine coming and some scientist say, there will be famine because we are eating our sowing crop and we should stop wasting food and grow alternatives. You say: there were famines before, rations and less food means economical harm for restaurant holders.

stop things which ARE causing real harm

Like floods are not causing harm or hurricanes or blizzards? Droughts? Lack of fresh water? Dying bees (no pollination)?

real and significant issue for our future is simply the limited supply of worldwide oil

So how can we make sure we can go longer with our current supply? Maybe by reducing our usage of oil? Oh, wait, that is EXACTLY what everyone else is saying. No matter how you look at it, we should reduce our CO2 emissions (less burning of fossil fuels). It makes economical sense, it makes ecological sense and it makes strategic sense.

So I support any rational or irrational behaviour that leads to alternate energy research

So you endorse those "certain parties using theories ...", regardless if they are nut-cases or respected scientists?

I just mean to say that simply because we can show the earth was warmer last year does not prove that we r the cause of it. And I feel those who focus on global warming r the real one with their head in the sand

1) Irrespective if you think humans are the cause of global warming or not, you can't but agree that we are contributing to the problem (even if it is only 0.1%).
2) No matter what you think about global warming and the causes. Everyone against global warming is for less dependency on oil/coal/... and is for a sustainable energy supply.

You claim those people have their heads in the sand for short term problems (which you call realities), yet their suggestions are perfectly compatible with any solution for the short term energy crisis we might be facing. Btw. I have high hopes for the fusion reactor (hopefully operational by 2019).
Yet it seems you have your head in the sand with regards to the climate change (what if you are wrong?). Even if technologies are now developed for the wrong reasons in your opinion like renewable energy for global warming, it may still be beneficial for you and humanity as a whole. (examples are ample: explosives for mining operations, radar for aviation, GPS, Internet, ...)

Comment: Re:There is no denying the Earth is getting hotter (Score 1) 877

by Candyban (#38780189) Attached to: 2011 Was the 9th Hottest Year On Record
Although I find putting a price on a human life is disgusting, there are a number of flaws in your logic even when using your chain of thought.

according to US actuarial tables, a human life is worth about $13 million ... is a rough calculation that a rational liberal economist ...

First mistake: These values are for a US/Western life. The values for "foreigners", especially third-world countries where most of the casualties will be, is MUCH lower. Also when there will be a famine, the first casualties will be the "weak": elderly, handicapped, children, women ...
Economically speaking, some of them will be net profits.

Second mistake: The economic loss as you calculate will be in the countries of origin. This will reduce the world economy, but will have less impact on the western world. This has the pervert effect that western economy will have a greater percentage of the world wealth and as a consequence a greater influence, so why would anyone want to invest in a worse future?

Third mistake: You assume the US cares about the financial well-being of others. Investors will lay off hundreds of thousands of people to gain 3% more return on their investment. The cost of keeping a pet is greater than the cost of medication and nutrition of a few African/Asian children.

Forth mistake: You assume (the majority of) people will plan ahead and/or see the consequence of their actions. Look at all the debt we rack up. Look at how we "bury" our waste (including nuclear) like putting it in the ground will make it magically disappear. Look at how people (ab)use antibiotics.

Fifth mistake: You assume the loss of money will be evenly spread amongst all people. This is untrue as we can see in the economic crisis. The wealthy/powerful, who decide policies, will see little impact while the poor/weak will take the biggest hit.

Comment: Re:There is no denying the Earth is getting hotter (Score 1) 877

by Candyban (#38779751) Attached to: 2011 Was the 9th Hottest Year On Record

If you want to stop me from burning whatever I want anytime I want whether it be wood or coal or petrol you are going to have to actually come to my house with weapons and arrest me.

No need. When prices will have sufficiently risen, you will have no more money to buy these products.

Can't you see how incredibly difficult it is to get so many people all over this planet to stop producing C02?

It is very easy. CO2 is mainly a by-product of our energy consumption. When there are no more cheap energy sources (oil), people will be forced to use less energy by the ever increasing prices. Between 1990-2000 1 barrel of crude oil on average costed less than $20. Between 2000-2004 it went up to $30. Now it is at $100: why do you think that is? Kyoto? Off course not. Did your income go up 3x since 2004? No? So the same amount of energy is taking up a greater portion of your available budget. This will continue until one of two things will happen:
1) People will start using less energy: either by using more power efficient technologies or by abandoning comfort because it will be too expensive
2) We find a new cheap sustainable alternative energy source (nuclear fission is definitely not viable before 2020)

If prices triple again in the next 10 years, will you continue to burn whatever you can afford or will you then start reducing your energy usage (insulating, smaller car, ...)?

Comment: Re:I'm not changing to IPv6 on a specific date... (Score 0) 463

by Candyban (#38737022) Attached to: June 6 Is World IPv6 Day 2012: This Time For Keeps

on my own internal network I might not bother with setting up IPV6, and instead do the equivalent of a NAT for my internal servers to give them an IPV4 address and only have my border router deal with IPV6

Good luck. You obviously never tried this and got burned to the ground by the "netfilter" guys because their "NAT IS EVIL" mantra.

AFAIK there IS NO IPv6 NAT available at all with iptables (unlike openBSD). Their suggestion: "use reverse proxies".

Heck even a single command to administer everything is too much to ask (they are separate protocols, but then again every other application which binds to :: will serve both 4 and 6). You'll have to duplicate each firewall rule set.

Comment: Re:BIND alternatives (Score 1) 60

by Candyban (#38708912) Attached to: Internet Systems Consortium Seeks Wider Input For BIND 10

A DNS server is, if you will, akin to an office suite

Is this some kind of inside joke like half of the code is dead (LibreOffice) or there are many different formats doing the same?

I am totally lost and confused by your "analogy". The whole idea about an analogy is that you make it SIMPLE by using well known concepts.

Now, when I said above that a DNS server is akin to an office suite, I wasn't saying that there is a spreadsheet and a word processor included with DNS servers

So then what were you saying? It is like powerpoint? Or Outlook?

Please do not take this wrong way. It is meant as positive criticism: try to find better analogies, it helps the both of us. :)

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