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Comment: Re:Hmm (Score 2, Interesting) 692

by AniVisual (#31724644) Attached to: Science Attempts To Explain Heaven

Let me assume that you mean the community of scientists, professionals and journals, along with their corpus of work, when you speak of "science". True, there exists people who dogmatically worships their publications. True, people make mistakes with their hypotheses and on occasion, the rest doggedly follow. And true, there can be abuses of science by deviants like the upper class and their eugenics.

But when you make such an argument representing science as a divorced dogmatic institution akin to the Catholic Church, it is immediately obvious that you are spoon-fed the religious spin of your brethren. For the doctor you go to when you are unwell is a person who worships "science". The engineer who built your buildings unquestioningly believes that the the more arcane portions of the physics he employs is correct. The doctor and the engineer, whom without modern society would be lapsed back into Medieval times. While the frontier of science is uncertain and suspect to the ethos of the Circle of Eminent Scientists Colloquially Called Science Itself, as evidences are acknowledged and cumulated, once enough eyes are poured over it, the bugs of the Scientific Canon are ironed out.

Now, you can't do that with your Biblical Canon, can you? Oh, no, wait; you can! For in Early Christianity the Gnostics, once regarded as the most prestigious of Christian communities, were deemed heretics; for in their rare insight they thought the God of the Old Testament to be too cruel to be the God whom Jesus spoke of as benevolent and forgiving. Goodbye Gnostics, your wisdom, and your literature! A millenium later, when the Protestant Church was excommunicated, they threw away the canon that they deemed unreliable. Goodbye beloved Apocrypha! Every church has their own impeccable canon. The ridiculousness of it! But what no church can do is to reach a consensus as to what the definitive canon is. Without the evidence of countless experiments and studies given to canonical scientific models by "science", even mainstream churches have irreconcilable differences. Ultimately, the religion that you devotedly worship is but a text, a tradition, and a specific, geographically-bound set of dogmatic interpretations of that canon in its happy apologiae. Science, on the other hand, is universally practiced, and the mainstream never fail to debate, listen, comment and adapt, and provide ideas for engineers to improve our quality of life.

But I digress. By far the most important line of separation between science and religion is that the science, as an institution of many specializations provides us with choices and freedom while religion, in its many diverse institutions refining the sole spiritual, or shall we say, behavioral aspect of life, strives to limit the freedom of its adherents. This is perhaps the point that leads many moral men to be atheists. Take abortion for example. Science had allowed women to have safe abortions, giving them an option and the freedom to not bear a child whom they may not love or be able to provide for due to the grim realities of life. A woman can still choose not to abort. The Catholic Church, however, begs to differ. Its hierarchy of celibate and sexually frustrated priests does not sympathize with their plight, even as it attempts to cover up its molestation scandals. The devout is left to live in grievous sin, shall one decide to abort; or in shame or poverty or suffering, shall one choose the other.

Can you still call science a religious institution?

Comment: Re:If you can't handle calculus, science isnt for (Score 1) 467

by AniVisual (#31722190) Attached to: Help Me Get My Math Back?

No, you've just been doing it wrong. A lot of the humanities require one to imitate, study and analyse the work of masters. It's like programming; without looking at some good code and studying the logic and design patterns, anything non-trivial that comes out of your keyboard is going to be a lump of mud. Don't let the ethos that the humanities are 'soft', magical, arbitrary things; they are art in the sense of Latin ars in their very technical essence; they are founded on great skill, practice, and a tradition of heroes who strive to attain aesthetic perfection.

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