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Comment Re:Point of Order (Score 1) 346

They have restarted the tours but you need to register/schedule them way ahead of time. If you ask the guides they will usually try to show you most of the neat/unclassified stuff.

All my stomping around has been unguided and on my own and yeah the military can be really weird on what the consider classified.

Perhaps the coolest place of all that the Air Force sent me was Kwajalein atoll and was lucky enough to hook up with some guys that wanted to explore. As a firefighter way back then I got lots of time off to explore.

Fun fact about Cheyenne Mountain is I can prove the military has a sense of humor. There is a broom closet under one of the stairs labeled SG-1 for the entrance to StarGate and also one of the old mainframes had an official sign on it saying "WOPR".

Comment Re:Point of Order (Score 1) 346

Yep Loring AFB 84-Closure in 94.

Nearby are an old radar site in Caswell Me., a Nike sit in Limestone, and the old WSA area on the Air Base in Limestone.

Lots of old missile sites in ND near the site I sent you. Google Earth has an overlay that details a lot of them.

I've seen a lot of Cold War infrastructure working for today's Global Strike and Space Commands. Cheyenne Mountain fascinates me every time I go into it. Also a bunch of the space tracking sites that were put up in the '60's. Nothing like Uncle Sam paying for you to travel to those old sites.

On the WWII sites, if you ever get a chance to get to the Mariana Islands take it, from Guam to Saipan to Tinian. Soooo much accessible WWII history.

Comment Re:Point of Order (Score 1) 346

Yep completely misread, my apologies.
I like to visit the old POW sites when I can, I first learned of them when the Air Force stationed me in Aroostook County, Maine. Cold War buff too. If you like cold ware history you should visit the old Stanley R. Mickelsen Safeguard Complex in North Dakota. http://www.srmsc.org/

Comment Re:Only in America... (Score 1) 133

$220M per drone is not the fly-away cost that is the total cost of the project including R&D and ground equipment divided by the number of Global Hawk drones produced. Yes a real number of dollars spent but much of the R&D cost is applicable to follow on systems. Produce more Global Hawks and that $220M per Drone figure actually goes down. Not advocating for more Global Hawks but the fly-away cost is probably closer to $30M per drone.

The same cost calculation inflate the cost of a B-2 because when we originally anticipated the R&D spread over 100 planes it looked reasonable but when you reduce the buy to 16 planes you raise the per plane R&D cost by a factor of 6.5.

Oh and how many 747s have been produced to spread R&D costs over?

Comment Re:2414 names? Meh, try people.nasa.gov (Score 1) 133

Umm, not illegal for a general citizen of the United States to obtain and possibly publish classified information, you might get a VISIT after the fact of publishing it asking you not to publish again and to withdraw the publication but not illegal unless you have signed a non-disclosure agreement when receiving a security clearance or you used illegal means to obtain the information. Settled pretty well during the '70s Pentagon Papers incident.

Comment It comes down to funding (Score 1) 169

Cable work is often times contracted out. One contractor makes a bid including the time to remove the old cabling even though it isn't specced, another contractor leaves the work to remove the cabling out because it isn't specced. The lower bid is accepted and funded.

The customer then asks the winning contractor why didn't remove the cables, Response "Not in the requirements". Customer then goes back for additional funding which is denied and the old cabling never gets removed. Seen it happen many times when mainframe facilities were re-purposed with racks for X86 servers.

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