I felf very sorry for the young teenagers that came with their church group. They were being raised by liars.

I was raised by such dolts. I believed it until about the age of 17. Then I broke out in a small way, and my world changed. Trust me, one of those kids will someday grow up to hold a doctorate in evolution.

I don't challenge my elders when they bring up the subject, we just agree to disagree, knowing that their young college-boy is pretty bright and really good at math, so he's probably right. Let it be.