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Internet Archive Gets DMCA Exemption
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on Wed Nov 29, 2006 04:02 PM
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Paul Hickman writes "The Internet Archive has successfully lobbied for a DMCA exemption for the Software Archive. The IA keeps out-of-date programs, games and other random craziness for future programmers to savor. At the rapid pace of software development, this makes sure that we can create a history for us to remember and wonder at the programming of early games."
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Now all that we need is (Score:5, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Friday May 18, @11:07AM)
Re:Now all that we need is (Score:5, Funny)
(http://www.hyperlogos.org/ | Last Journal: Wednesday July 18, @08:19PM)
Can they ignore takedown orders? (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://kadin.sdf-us.org/ | Last Journal: Tuesday October 16, @01:46PM)
If it's the latter, while it's a nice move, there isn't really any software (except stuff on Hollerith cards) that's anywhere near getting into the public domain anyway. So it would seem to be a moot point. If they have permission to archive all content though, even stuff that's still in copyright, that would be decent.
I've read elsewhere though that the exemptions from the Copyright Office aren't permanent, but need to be renewed every few years or they expire. So all that has to happen to destroy everything is for an administration to pressure the Copyright Office to let the exemption slip, and then threaten to prosecute the IA if they don't destroy the de-protected works. Someone in another thread likened it to being given a Band-Aid after you've gotten the crap beaten out of you with a lead pipe; a nice gesture, but ultimately it would have been nicer to not get beaten in the first place.
Re:Can they ignore takedown orders? (Score:5, Funny)
(http://nzruss.blogspot.com/)
Re:Can they ignore takedown orders? (Score:5, Informative)
Member States shall ensure that all intentional infringements of an intellectual property right on a commercial scale, and attempting, aiding or abetting and inciting such infringements, are treated as criminal offences.
Amendment
Member States shall ensure that the fair and
reasonable use of a protected work including
such use by reproduction in copies or audio
or by any other means, for purposes such as
criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching
(including multiple copies for classroom use),
scholarship, archiving, format conversion or
research will not be treated as a criminal
offence.
Justification:
Paragraph 1 of Article 3 describes what shall be treated as a criminal offence. New paragraph 2
affirms desirable fair uses which shall never get punished by criminal sanctions, and are vital for
a free and open society. Amendment derived from to 17 U. S.C. 107
Re:Can they ignore takedown orders? (Score:4, Interesting)
Scale != gain. You could make no money, not even at your own loss (not recouping your own costs), and still infringe on a commercial scale.
Also, criminal penalty for incitement to pirate? So if I were to tell people to massively violate Disney's copyright on Steamboat Willie (or other works that would have gone to the public domain if not for extensions), and people do it on a scale of a commercial act, even if not for commercial gain, that would be criminal incitement to infringe copyright.
Expect any sharing that isn't limited in volume of copies to be considered commercial-scale infringement. Especially as they don't care how many copies you make but rather how many copies you potentially could have made to googol the penalties (remember talk of small operations' equipment being "equivalent to N 1x CD burners"?).
Re:Can they ignore takedown orders? (Score:5, Insightful)
I'd argue political commentary or protest, such as incitement to pirate Steamboat Willie, when the object of protest is the very copyright extensions made on its behalf, should also be considered fair use, though I doubt the law (let alone Disney) would agree.
Jumping the ocean, though "the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole" is one of the measures of fair use, it does not proscribe the use of a work in its entirety from enjoying a fair use defense (e.g. use of entire Barbie dolls in a parody (Mattel Inc. v. Walking Mountain Productions) and the recording of entire television shows for timeshifted personal private viewing (Sony Corp. v. Universal City Studios, granted that "personal private" limitation undermines, not underlines the original point)).
I'd also argue that I should have unfettered right to reproduce and distribute any and all commercials ever made (and Giganews should carry alt.binaries.multimedia.commercials in its feed so that I can) as by their nature every viewing public or private benefits them, for which each viewing costs them nothing (when they normally have to pay huge sums to get air time). Promotional materials should not be protected by copyright. And certainly materials whose lifetime is substantially shorter than the copyright term protecting them should not be granted effectively indefinite protection!
And the same for any unpaid incidental appearance of a product in another work, or any use for which a work has become traditional, such as the singing of "Happy Birthday" in a restaurant or in an audiovisual work of fiction. Holiday songs created to become sung every time that holiday comes along should not enjoy protection from the very behavior they sought to engender.
(BTW, I should let you know that I often go out on tangents when discussing such things, or respond in part to others who are not the parent message, such as and especially the original article or its summary. I try to allow context to properly attach my meaning and the subject of my address. Please don't get upset that I may not be talking your points.)
BTW, Ob:IANAL.
Re:Can they ignore takedown orders? (Score:5, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Monday November 28 2005, @12:21PM)
Re:Can they ignore takedown orders? (Score:5, Informative)
They made the exception for obsolete computer programs/games among others. Their definition of obsolete is:
A format shall be considered obsolete if the machine or system necessary to render perceptible a work stored in that format is no longer manufactured or is no longer reasonably available in the commercial marketplace.
Takedown orders will still hold, if the content is still manufactured. Well, at least they don't have to wait until it reaches public domain!
The first few pages of the official document [copyright.gov] (pdf warning) give more details.
Yes, and I, uh, need one also... (Score:5, Funny)
Sincerely
Pirate^H^H^H^H^H^H Bob
Re:Yes, and I, uh, need one also... (Score:5, Funny)
Not just IA (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://robvincent.net/ | Last Journal: Tuesday October 09, @01:55PM)
It also means... (Score:5, Funny)
Whoops! Was that out loud?
At long last (Score:1, Funny)
You win THIS round, internet archive (Score:2)
(http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: Sunday July 29, @04:31PM)
$50,000 in pro-bono time (Score:2, Funny)
(http://webtrotter.com/blog)
All 6 exemptions (Score:5, Informative)
Starting to change my mind (Score:4, Insightful)
In the past, cultures that didn't care, didn't leave readable records-we don't know-or *care*- much about them. They are gone, as they should be. Whereas cultures that wrote things down in an intelligent way, using the best tech of the time, had their culture and language and works survive and they are still important today. Evolution not only goes to survival of the fittest, but survival of the most robust and open, because their knowledge base expanded rapidly, which lead to them being important, which lead them to being viable down through time.
Let the jerks go to all the trouble to create something, then make it a bear to stay viable or readable, their loss! Let them lock it up, charge huge fees for every peek at it or use, let them stay walled off, keep it buried in their vaults, throw away the key, bury it, obfuscate it, make it just so hard to use that..no one in the future will care! Let their own hubris be their legacy, their paranoid delusions of grandeur that their stuff is so valuable that humans will make the effort to try and decipher their weirdly coded and encumbered "works", when reality will be that the stuff that is easy to get to and easy to read and use and enjoy will stick around much better.
Yeah, but ... (Score:2, Insightful)
(http://www.alhunt.com/)
And let's not forget - this "exemption" is courtesy of the very same people who created the need for an exemption - congress.
Stop voting for incumbent politicians and DMCA-type garbage will stop happening in the first place.
Submissions (Score:2)
(http://www.hiregeeks.com/)
So let's say I want to submit my game [metasquared.com], which is already listed on Tucows [tucows.com], to this site.
How would it get indexed? I could not find a link to contribute software. After Home of the Underdogs [the-underdogs.info] grabbed it without so much as notifying me (but whatever; I'm flattered more than anything else), I would think this would be simple.
On a totally unrelated matter.. (Score:1)
I wonder if DeCSS can be included in the IA's Software archive, now? :)
Why not move Internet Archive to Europe ? (Score:1)
Europe would be pleased I guess. And we need good lobbyist
against software patents
Re:Who funds the Internet Archive? (Score:5, Informative)
(http://www.suninternetcafe.co.uk/ | Last Journal: Wednesday March 15 2006, @08:58AM)
Alexa Internet has been crawling the web since 1996, which has resulted in a massive archive
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexa_Internet [wikipedia.org]
Alexa Internet is a California-based subsidiary company of Amazon.com, that is best known for operating a website (www.alexa.com) that provides information on the web traffic to other websites. Alexa collects information from users who have installed an Alexa Toolbar, allowing them to provide statistics on web site traffic, as well as lists of related links.
http://www.imilly.com/alexa.htm [imilly.com]
Is Alexa spyware?
Well, no
But Lavasoft's Ad-Aware identifies a standard registry key included with Internet Explorer as "Data Miner" spyware, with little or no further explanation, and offers to delete it. I hope this page offers a better explanation, and other alternatives to deletion. Spybot identifies it too, with more explanation, and they have a smarter strategy to deal with it (more below).
The issue is the 'Related Links' feature of IE (pre-XP SP2) which appears as the 'Tools'/'Show Related Links' menu item (and a corresponding toolbar button if you added it from the 'Customize...' link on the toolbar). If you use that feature, IE will contact the Alexa servers, via MSN, to obtain information about other web pages which seem to be related, open an Explorer Bar, and display those (plus adverts and whatnot). Go check the Alexa web site to see if you think that is a good idea (and, just to be clear, I think it's a very sucky idea), or just to double-check that you haven't deliberately or unintentionally or absent-mindedly installed some of their software.
Essentially it a two edged sword.
you have the positive in the internet archive which is kind of a byproduct from alexas data mining activitys
It didnt have to be created at all but Alexas authors figured we wouldnt mind if they tracked our visits to different sites if they gave something useful back (The Internet Archive).
Re:Who funds the Internet Archive? (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://www.geocities.com/smushmoth)
Re:Seriously? (Score:1)
Ok, I'll get back in my box now...
not good news (Score:3, Interesting)
(http://userful.com/)
Seeking and receiving an exemption validates and legitimizes the DMCA. This is very similar to answering "no" to "Did you steal software today?"
Re:Seriously? (Score:1, Flamebait)
(http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc3675.html)
With regard to the DMCA. Learn to write, shithead!
Now that's flamebait!