Nobody is saying that immigrants are going to ruin our economy. H1B workers are not immigrants. They're foreign workers. They hold no right to become citizens or permanent residents. They're just pure imported labor. There's a big difference.

Ugh. I'm so sick of all this nationalist bullshit. Why are we so afraid of the global economy? People should be free to move between different countries and seek employment at will. Ultimately, it's better for the world if we break down these artificial barriers.

Because when it comes to jobs, we don't even have a national economy. We have a local one. By the time you get into your 30s, most people have zero interest in packing up everything and moving to another state to get a job, much less another country. That barrier isn't artificial. It's ingrained in human nature.

When it becomes too easy for people to move to another place and take jobs, the inherent result is age discrimination. People who are younger and more mobile come in and take jobs that were needed by people who are less mobile, when the mobile people could just as easily have taken or created jobs closer to home.

It would be different if the world's wages were somewhat balanced, because then the number of young people leaving the U.S. for jobs would be balanced by the number of people entering. However, this is not the case. The U.S. pays higher wages to compensate for a higher cost of living. Therefore, those young people moving into the U.S. and taking jobs from older folks constitute a real burden. And at least in our lifetimes, there will never be balanced wages worldwide. There will always be some new third-world country to exploit for cheap labor. And workers in those countries will always benefit from coming to the U.S., where wages are higher. So tearing down those artificial barriers to labor entering the U.S. will always cause serious harm to workers in the U.S.

Worse, tearing down those barriers does nothing to improve the world on the average, at least for the foreseeable future. Because there will always be cheap labor pools to exploit, raising the standard of living in one country will only continue up until the point where they start demanding more money. At that point, they'll just bring the educational standards of another country up to the point where they can start exploiting it, and leave folks in the first country homeless and starving. The only true way to raise the quality of life around the world is to ensure that no one anywhere is willing to work for less than a living wage. This is, of course, hard to do.

If you want to see a demonstration of why a lack of barriers is a bad thing, you need only look at the Silicon Valley with respect to the United States as a whole. There are no barriers to moving to California from other states with lower cost of living and lower average salaries, so lots of young people move here to make more money. The result is that age discrimination is rampant, the cost of living has skyrocketed, and there aren't enough jobs to keep people from losing their homes. And now you're talking about making the problem worse by making the entire world flood to the Silicon Valley.

As far as I'm concerned, if a company wants to hire workers outside the U.S., they should create a division in another country and hire those employees locally. This has several benefits over H1Bs. First, it is less likely to result in a reduction in jobs in the U.S., because separate business units tend to work on separate projects, and have separate staffing needs. Second, it does not drive up the cost of living in the U.S. by artificially inflating demand for housing. Third, it puts a lot more money into the economies of those other countries, because those workers are spending money in businesses near their homes, rather than here. That makes it much more effective at driving up the standard of living in those other countries than bringing workers here would.

Why don't companies do this? Because they don't want to drive up living standards in other countries. They just want cheap labor from those countries. If they drive up living standards in those other countries, then workers from those countries would eventually start demanding higher salaries, and they'd have to go and find another country to exploit before too long.

In short, government's whole reason for existing is to protect the powerless from the powerful. Employers are relatively powerful compared with their employees, so government actions that limit the ways in which those companies can abuse employees are generally a good thing, whether that means protecting U.S. workers from losing their jobs to foreign workers or protecting foreign workers from the often abusive working conditions that they encounter as foreign workers working in the United States by forcing those companies to start divisions in other countries and hire the workers locally instead.

NSA doesn't give a rip. Their job is to get into Tor. If they find out military or CIA secrets it is not a problem because they are on the same side. Ideally, they'd find exploits or put them in and patch it for the military's client only... but their primary goal is to get themselves in, secondary goal is to help the other agencies (so they are not going to publicly give Tor patches... or if they do decide that is more important, do you think they would be public about it? I would think they would purposely leak patches.)

"What part of "FDR's expansion which started the modern day everything goes" is so difficult to understand?"
the part where it's factually wrong.

No, not necessarily.

What are you tlaking about. It ran it's course and then ended when it was designed to. It didn't fail

The USOS has been under attack by the Pubs since the 70s.
It used to be btaz supported, then in 1970 is was changed to break even.
In 1982 stamps stopped being a tax, and became a postal product.
Mean while unusually hire bars keep being put in place and the point to as a 'failure' by pubs.

This is classic for the pubs.
Cut it, give more responsibility, point to it as a failure, try to give the work to private corporations.
You see it over and over again.

The try it with SS. They keep lying that it's broke. It is not.Not even close, but that keep lying until every one believes them, then they will gut it and we will be screwed.
  Last year, the program ran a $32 billion surplus, adding to its $2.7 trillion trust fund. That’s not what I’d call “going broke.” But they raid it when ever they can and then blame it.

They have moved so far away from being fiscal conservative and social moderates to fiscally stupid and ultra conservative socially.

You are the problem. You are narrow minded, have wildly inaccurate problems and don't do anything.
I've seen citizens affect change far to often.

False.
Dems, as sloppy as they do it, try to build a society of individuals. Pubs has turned to trying to create a society of consumers.

You should take of your 'there all bad, no matter what' hat and really pay attention.
Can you name the last thing any of you representatives have voted on? which way they voted? Their records? have you ever talked to one?
If you are't paying attention to what they are actually doing, not just media sound bites, then you don't know squat, your opinion is worthless baseless tripe, and you should shut up and pay attention.

That';s exactly backwards.

", I would be beaten by their thugs in blue and put in jail."
You're a loon.

I would bet he is a lazy do nothing whiner who hasn't even bother to talk to his representative about anything.

If you solution is get rid of them all, then you are looking for a silver bullet and are to lazy to think about actually fixing the problem. That tells everyone you need to grow up.

Nope.
Over the last 14 years, the Pubs have been bent on openly doing anything they can to hand everything over to larger corporation. It really start with Reagan, but this millennium they just blatantly lie, and when they get called out their media machine just spreads more lies until people with believe it or the next artificial pub 'controversy' comes up.

Don't talk about the dems as if it's balances. Both have issues, but the pubs have become far worse. The are basically extremist at this point.

You have bought into the the trap the pubs have created. 'Both do the same thing to the same degree therefor it doesn't matter.'

And don't even try to guess how I vote. OTOH, I actual watch CSPAN, read bills, and find the context for any statement a politician make that is reported in the media.
Sound bite manipulation needs to stop.

These fanatics would make the same arguments for public roads, public right of way, water, power, sewer, heating gas and highway system. They do in fact and have made great headway into those areas, it is to the point where serious discussions happen on the privatization of the air happen without laughter at how ridiculous it is.

It's like pyromaniacs have been given influence over fire safety... not all fire is good, they don't realize it because they are mentally ill. One has to wonder about these fanatic capitalists...

I'm one of those stupid free market libertarians.
FIFY
Whole history of corporate abuse without regulation and you ignore it.

"In my opinion, regulation is perhaps the biggest barrier to faster internet connectivity"
Your opinion is based on what facts? Every high speed internet service in every other country has as much or more regulation then the US.