Comment Re:Some error on unplayed games (Score 1) 118
Also, people owning worthless games nobody likes because they were bundled in with that one awesome one.
Also, people owning worthless games nobody likes because they were bundled in with that one awesome one.
The maximum limit on an an arbitrary heat-conversion system is that doesn't break accepted theory is the Carnot-cycle heat engine, where eff 1 - T_cold / T_hot (as measured from absolute 0). But it's a rare real-world engine that gets anywhere near the Carnot efficiency limit - a car engine might run at 1100K for an ideal efficiency of around 73%, but the reality in most cars is closer to 25%. Being solid-state a thermoelectric device could potentially operate at very near the ideal (no mechanical losses), roughly tripling the efficiency. Assuming 90% efficient electric wheel motors the total system efficiency could be nearly as high.
Don't be fooled that "hey they are solid state and convert directly to electricity". Deep down, it's still a physical process that produces electricity, even if the moving parts are not something you can see. In actual practice, what happens with these things produces horrible efficiency.
These electronic devices are semiconductor junctions that you get heat to flow through in hopes the electrons will bounce their way across the junction into the cooler side and get stuck... They are not efficient from a thermodynamic perspective, and unless my physical understanding of how they work is totally wrong, they are never going to approach the efficiency of even an internal combustion engine, from a thermodynamic perspective anyway.
Before you make a bigger ass of yourself, please look up what "waste heat" actually is and familiarize yourself with the "Thermo" in thermodynamics.
Engines run HOT. Every bit of heat that travels into the metal and outside the engine is lost energy. Capturing bits of that lost energy and putting it to good use is the concept here. This is waste heat, so it is free, just as eating food out of the garbage bin is "free food" -- someone else paid for it, but they threw it out so it is "free" for you. It's not disobeying thermodynamics any more than burning a gallon of gasoline to make a car move 30 miles is disobeying the laws of thermodynamics.
For other automotive-related things that defy your idiotic concept of physics, please see turbochargers and hybrid cars.
If you read my post.... (and apparently you didn't)
Until these devices they describe approach the current efficiency of a power plant, there is zero chance they will be helpful on an industrial scale. Modern power plants are usually within a few percentage points of ideal so these devices are going to have to come way up the efficiency scale, and they are horrible now. Given how they work at the subatomic level (holes, electrons etc) I seriously doubt we are in any danger of reaching this level.
I'm not sure how the cooling works for PV cells. But, if they are actively cooling the liquid there is little to be gained from this arrangement and it is likely going to lead to hotter cell temperatures and cooler liquid temperatures.
So it *might* work, but only if the temperature differential they can stand is high enough and they are not expending energy to cool the liquid through some heat engine.... (I.e. if they use something like a swamp cooler or something.)
The funny (or scary) thing is, at one time one of the Cracker Jack prizes was a match shooter.
Nuclear power plants are very efficient, yet they still use cooling towers and still run millions of gallons of heated water through cooling ponds. This technology is about capturing waste heat, which is the product of a process which has already obeyed all the rules of thermodynamics.
Here we go "waste heat". Please learn a bit more about thermodynamics and heat engines. Power is generated from the TRANSFER of heat. Power plants are huge heat engines, that produce electrical power by taking heat from a high temperature source, transferring that heat to a low temperature sink. There is very little WASTE in a power plant (nuclear or otherwise). Yes you have to dump heat to generate power, but it is not like you are just wasting power when you dump heat. This "waste heat" is not a free resource you can exploit to get more power from the plant.
Adding any other devices in the path of the heat flow will only impede the heat flow and drive down efficiency. I contend that the loss of efficiency will be more than the power you can generate using devices that directly convert heat transfer to electrical power. These devices are not nearly as efficient as what we have already in a modern power plant, thus there is zero chance they will be better.
It is hard, as before 2000 it was no FUD.
About current day cyber attacks I have no opinion.
Except: would take me 5 minutes to cause a USA wide power outage. Well, worst case 50
If 50 min is all it takes, then why as it not happened? Surely there is some nut job out there crazy enough to do it and smart enough to pull it off. Surely... It's not like all the folks in the middle east are somehow stupid, and a lot of them have serious issues with the USA and would love nothing more than to put us all in the dark, if even for a short time. Wide spread outages, caused by somebody hacking, simply have not happened. Why? If it is so easy, surely somebody would have tried it by now because there are a lot of smart people out there who would be willing to do it.
I strongly suspect you are making stuff up now.. So this is where we stop.
If, instead of a tablet the kids had blocks and picture books, they would develop manual dexterity. Or at least provide the books and blocks and limited tablet time.
If it lets me kill the phone if the wanker in front of me driving at 20mph, I'll be happy.
Unless the guy behind you has one too and thinks it's your fault..
There's a lot of energy available from an IC engine. If you doubt me let your car run for anything more than two minutes and then touch the exhaust manifold. Bumped one with my arm when I was in high school and it took twelve years for the scar to fade.
Which is why I stipulate that these heat to electricity devices MIGHT be of value for internal combustion engines. The heat dumped by them is significant and the temperature differential quite high. There is at least opportunity to get something that would normally just get dumped. I just openly wonder if for a car or truck it will be worth the cost, weight and complexity it will add. I strongly suspect that it's not worth it, but I'm not totally sure.
Any energy you manage to get, will be lost someplace else because you put these devices in the heat flow.
You sir, are ignorant . It's a sad comment on the state of affairs that a clueless bullshit comment like your could be moderated informative.
We've been extracting energy from waste heat, without incurring extra losses, for over a century now - i
Calm down and think about what I said. Your average power plant is pretty darn good efficiency wise (which is what I said if you don't mind reading), which is exactly what you are saying too. Yea, we've come a long way from just dumping waste steam, we have optimized things very well actually. I'm saying that there is very little room for improvement left at this point and there is NO FREE LUNCH here. These devices that convert heat flow directly to electric power are NOT going to increase the efficiency of industrial scale power plants. These devices are simply NOT EFFICIENT enough and will disrupt the current efficiency we've already designed in, they will only disrupt the heat flow, raise entropy and result in less power output for the same input. They don't help.
Don't let them fool you with all this "waste heat" garbage, at least until you understand the Thermodynamic laws that govern all this and can explain what a heat engine is.
Before cautioning others to educate themselves, first pull your head out of your own ass and educate yourself.
What on earth did I say that was incorrect? I admit to having struggled with thermodynamics class, but I believe I captured the essence of heat engines and efficiency. So you want to step down off the pedestal and discuss exactly what you think I have wrong in my understanding of thermodynamics? Or are you going to stay up there and keep yelling about how stupid everybody else is?
I wouldn't be so sure
Lisa, in this house, we obey the LAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS!!!!
LOL Why yes, yes we do. Like it or not.
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