How does this NOT have our government written all over it? By your very definition you seem to give weight to his argument.

I'm a little curious as to why we're arguing about the ability to vote of any individual who, due to language barriers, is unable to understand what he or she is voting for in the first place.

I think that there are many more aspects to consider here.

Wow... Nice moderating guys. Disagree != troll.

I'm not the biggest fan of Sarah Palin, but your post is incredibly one-sided. Before the presidential election she was the governor with the highest approval ratings in the nation. Again, I'm not the biggest fan of hers, but do try to be a little less biased.

That's a ridiculous statement. Just "because some people are not smart with their finances, we should have the government step in and handle everybody's finances". It doesn't make sense, because not all consumers have the same needs. Also, the price of incandescent bulbs is very low compared to the alternatives, and as many others have pointed out before, the alternatives have a much higher negative impact on the environment (for production alone; for the sake of this point, we won't consider disposal).

Please tell me I'm not the only one who sat for a couple of minutes to decypher what he actually said...

So you arbitrarily deny it any experiences? That's a bad example.

The problem we have in this debate is that regardless of state of mind, a human fetus is still human, and will never be anything but human. Calling it a clump of cells is easy enough, because a scab is a clump of cells, and why cares about tossing one of those out? However, the defining difference between a human embryo and a clump of cells is that, left to run it's course, a human enbryo will 100% of the time develop into a sentient human being, one that will be sentient and independent and garner experiences for itself. A clump of cells will not, ever.

Oddly enough, though, as a sentient adult, if you burn your hand you yank it back before you can mentally process what has just occurred.

Just sayin'...

You mean a selectively (read: In) bred Grue?

I think Street View is awesome. I enjoy being able to see what the location actually looks like before I go there, or just "cruise" through places for curiosity's sake.

My objection to Street View, on the other hand, is simply this: It's an easily accessible archive of private property. Sure, it's taken from a public place, and any number of people could have taken that picture. They may have even uploaded it to their blog, thus giving it exposure on the internet. But google? I don't know...

I guess I don't like the prospect of just anyone being able to type in my address, and get a picture of my property, even from across the world. I would defend my neighbors right to take pictures of my property, or even that of a tourist... But Google is a corporation that,in this case, is selling my details for a profit.

For whatever reason, it just doesn't sit well with me. I think I'd be less opposed to it if the would go down main city streets, and not veer off into neighborhoods.

As for the Greeks- I think they take it a bit too far. I completely agree that if it's a public place, there should be no expectation of privacy, and people should be able to take pictures, video, audio, et al. to their hearts content.

Substantial? Maybe if I was referring to substance. No, I meant I could converse back and forth for quite some length of time.

I patronize you because you said "Good grief, it was a pen", which, by which you downplay it's significance except to some collector. I do see that you've taken a little time to look some stuff up about it since your last response, but you still downplay it. In that, I take you for a imbecile, due to the fact that you still acquaint a significant gift to a pile of DVDs. I suspect that makes you quite bad at giving thoughtful gifts.

My last paragraph points to when you suggested it was trivial.

The thought has occurred to me.

Alright, I'll cede that point to you. I can't make list of said politicians. I'd be hard pressed to find 5. Though, at least I have a standard that I hold my elected officials to. You seem perfectly satisfied with the status quo of our government, since you care less about what was done, and more about who did it.

I don't know what Michelle Malkin is all about, but if the point that he is making (and using her as a reference for) is correct, how would that make him not a liberal? Are you only allowed to subscribe to certain sources of information to be considered a liberal? Or are you just emphasizing your own personal veiws and trying to discredit any information gathered from a site that is contrary to your ideals?

I think his point is well thought out and quite clear. You can't claim that one party has clean hands, and the other is responsible for all wrong done in our government. People need to get their head out of the sand and take a look around.

I am well versed enough on his policies to carry a lengthy conversation. If I don't know about it, I will look it up. In this particular case, the topic happens to be the iPod he presented Her Majesty, and I saw it as an opportune moment to interject about the precursor to this when he presented Prime Minister Brown with the DVDs.

How you think that the pen is not priceless, unique, and an irreplaceable piece of history is beyond me. It only takes a few moments of googling to discover that it's overrun with symbolism, and is not a trivial gift. I refuse to elaborate this matter for you, though, because I get the sense that it's lost on you. If you're so inclined, look it up, elsewise, you should refrain from commenting on subjects you've little familiarity with.

I have yet to babble on with Obama hating. I have no interest in creating dissent for the hell of it. I'm much more interested in stirring awareness than I am in stirring hatred. For example, that last thread that you found me in: Your post was useless, unless you're interested in the status quo. I couldn't care less who has and who hasn't read what laws. My concern is that these people are writing, amending, and passing laws. I expect every single bill that passes to be read and thoroughly understood. If they are not, then these politicians are not worth the salaries we pay them.

Also, when did I say anything about lipstick? Don't generalize with me. I'm not responsible for any words but my own.