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/grabs blaster rifle

Now get off my moisture farm, damn kids.

Your experience is very US-centric.

If you lived in Australia you'd find it hard to find anyone who spoke Spanish.

Chinese doesn't even have a word for "no", to give you an idea of how fundamentally different it is.

This is common amongst Asian languages or at least Asian cultures.

When communicating with contractors and businesses in many Asian nations it's often an exercise to figure out if "yes" means "yes we can" or "yes we cant"

I as well as millions of other sysadmins would very much like this feature in Windows.

That way we can immediately patch some machines and test for problems and then have the others patch 1-2 weeks later. 99% of the time it will be fine, but that 1% will save a weeks worth of downtime.

WSUS doesn't really cut it in this regard and requires too much manual work for a sysadmin that already doesn't have enough time.

And where are all the other Breiviks? Can't you find any other? At least one per week, please.

Moving the goal posts means you've lost the argument.

You said it yourself, this guy trippled Norways yearly homicide rate in 3 days. How many of the Muslim incidents you allude to occur in war zones or countries that have an open revolution? Most of them. It's like saying all Christian nations are unsafe by Colombia as an example. The difference between us is that I can recognise BS and you cant.

Norway is an extremely safe country and a rational one. The way Norway picked up and carried on After Breivik is a shining example to us all. No fear mongering or revenge wars.

But where are the extremist Islamic attacks in Norway... at least one per week please.

I'd argue that one religion specifically actually makes me unsafe

And this makes you a xenophobe.

Which was the point of my argument, you aren't interested in the truth, you're interested in things that agree with you.

Now here's the kicker, I'm an Australian, I live in Australia and I know a hell of a lot more about this than you do considering how biased and inaccurate your sources are.

This guy is simply not right in the head. It's not that he's a Muslim that caused this, its the fact he's mentally ill. He's already lost 5 of his hostages (they escaped out the back door) he's that incompetent. This is more an indication of Australia's failing mental health care than the rise of Islamic extremism.

At this point in history, arguing that perhaps religion doesn't make people utterly stupid really sounds almost like arguing that perhaps the Earth is hollow.

But that isn't your argument.

Your argument is that Islam is inherently violent (which is what the site you linked to is trying to say). Dont try to change the argument to all religions because you've been proven wrong (you want a list of attacks, the IRA did over 10,000 bombings on its own).

Extremism is bad and causes people to do irrational things. Your brand of extremism is as bad as any other.

Actually it's not.

This just demonstrates you didn't understand the argument.

You're the one arguing about religion, more specifically that one religion makes you unsafe.

I never said Norway was unsafe, I said Breivik was religiously motivated (he wrote a manifesto about it, his notion that the Christian church was being usurped was a big part of it).

Australia's gun laws are what has prevented this person from having an assault rifle. He's armed with a small single barrelled shotgun. Having more armed people will ensure that more incidents like this will occur and a lot more often.

And I am an Australian. Our gun laws have prevented things like this as criminals cant get easy access to guns.

We are not terrorised here I can assure you.

It doesn't even have the chance to get to that body count. The guy is armed with a shotgun, so thats two shots at best.

+1 sad indictment.

Pointless too - all he can do is humiliate Abbott in front of the world which Abbott has been doing himself when he gets out of reach of his handlers

Abbott's handlers would never let him.

Tony Abbott's statement on this couldn't have been more generic if it were written in beige.

But as soon as this is over, you can bet the poo is going to be flung in all directions in parliament and the media.

This,

A thousand times this.

There's so much misinformation about firearms in Australia its not funny.

It's not hard to get guns in Australia unless you've got a criminal record. I used to have guns (I moved and it was just simpler to sell them) and my character reference was the administrator at my school (she was also a JP) and that was at age 18.

Only fully automatics and semi-automatics are banned here. That is a good thing because this tool walked into a cafe with a shotgun, not an AK47. At worst it's a double barrel sawn off.

What I would say is that Australia is a very safe place to live and your chances of getting shot here is almost zero

You've got a better chance of winning the lottery than being shot in Australia.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by the "bottom line", but the list itself is backed by evidence; it's not an opinion piece, just a summary of facts

Nope, the site presents a conclusion and cherry picks soundbites to suit their agenda.

What the "the bottom line" means in this context is that they started with a conclusion and went out to prove it. That alone makes the site extremely untrustworthy (a proper study starts with a question and seeks to answer it, junk science starts with a conclusion and seeks to support it).

The article the GP linked to can be summed up in this sentence. People who are dead set in a belief will look for evidence to support it no matter how irrational and ridiculous it is.

BTW, the site you linked to contains no facts, it is an opinion piece with poorly presented soundbites to make it look factual but really presents a pre-baked conclusion.

I'd like to see a list like that for other religions, really

-Northern Ireland.
-Anders Breivik,
-The Lords Resistane Army (Uganda, child soldiers, sex slaves and all that stuff you like to whinge that Muslims do).
-The Army of God (USA, bombed abortion clinics and attacked doctors).

These are just the recent non-islamic religious* motivated violence (the conflict between the Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland alone is enough to prove you're just ignorant). You've then got all the terrorist groups in South America which is decidedly Christian.

*Not picking on Christians mind you, Like Muslims I know the majority are not terrorists but these are just the most prominent examples in recent times.

This.

Its a lone wolf.

And given that his demand is a live debate with the Prime Minister, Tony Abbott its a fair assumption to say that this is directly tied to the anti-islamic raids that took place earlier this year.

This, hosting a large site costs less than a bag of golf bats.

Hell, a small site costs me A$90 per year to host in Australia on a reputable ISP (so I could get it cheaper if I used Dodgy Brothers datacentres) including registering the domain.

The problem with advertising is that it has become so intrusive and annoying. So people are fighting back with ad blockers. We dont like pop-ups, pop-unders, pop-reacharounds ads that load before content, talking ads, flashing ads so we block them. Strangely enough the text based ads I get on gmail and google are fine (and often missed by adblock). The advertisers started this arms race, now they're upset that they're losing it.

Ranting aside, the best business model I've seen for a website isn't advertising in as much as tying it to a real business. Travel forums do this a bit, they are either owned or sponsored by a local business like a bar or hotel that keeps some subtle advertisement. So people who use that site tend to frequent the business that runs it. Of course it needs to be a decent business for this to work but it works fantastically if you do run a good business.