I thought that, as with this idea of dropping Banshee was just an idea posited at UDS, rather than a decision that's been taken? They wanted to come up with plans of what to do with the rest of a 1GB/2GB USB stick.

Showing someone a fishing rod != teaching them to fish

That's exactly the sort of place I'd expect them to be recruiting.

Because they've nothing much to win from doing that?

Samsung's might be quite willing to pay $15 per device. They're probably not about to stop shipping Android because of it.

No, that's probably Bing you're thinking of.

I'd assumed he meant OpenMoko, but the answer to his question in that case is obvious.

And the best bit is that this sort of a campaign really wouldn't look out of place in the News of the World.

Well, it's the sort of thing the tabloids would do...

Well, for a start, 'legal' doesn't equate to 'right' - something being legal to do doesn't render it beyond criticism.

But it's also quite widely accepted that the patent system is broken - even if you decide that software patents are in themselves permissible, the length of protection the 'inventor' gets from it compared to the pace of innovation in the industry is completely contrary to the original intent of the patent - if anything, the complaint is that this might well hold up in court more than that anybody in particular is doing it.

Is there an advantage to the non-adb methods?

It's been reported elsewhere (though I have no link to hand) that the actual change isn't that Telstra are deciding to not implement it at all, but that they're considering only implementing the anti-naked-children bit of it, and not the other list, given that not many people are likely to stand up and say "Don't cut off my nekkid children!"

Of course, it'd still be a step in that direction (and, yes, once the tech's there I imagine quietly adding URLs wont be hard at all), but it sort-of goes some way to explaining why the other list isn't being mentioned.

I think the plan is to keep it in Sellafield until it's fe; that building a proper place to put it wont be political suicide, and then doing that.

It seems to be one of those things that nobody really wants to decide upon, though.

The IWF isn't compulsory, though, it's just that ISPs can play the think-of-the-children card against each other. A&A, for example, don't use the IWF filter.

This plan, as I understand it, doesn't provide for such a choice.

Ah, the old "why are you protesting against us and not against every other shit state in the world, you must be anti-semites!"-argument

No, the old playing-a-gig-in-the-country-doesn't-suggest-support-for-every-policy-of-that-country's-government statement. There was nothing about zionism or anti-semitism there at all. He even referred to it as 'occupation'!