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Comment Re: Mann is a fruad (Score 1) 786

Source?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H...

"So far, no one has been able to provide a compelling answer to why climate change seems to be taking a break. We're facing a puzzle. Recent CO2 emissions have actually risen even more steeply than we feared. As a result, according to most climate models, we should have seen temperatures rise by around 0.25 degrees Celsius (0.45 degrees Fahrenheit) over the past 10 years. That hasn't happened. In fact, the increase over the last 15 years was just 0.06 degrees Celsius (0.11 degrees Fahrenheit) -- a value very close to zero. This is a serious scientific problem that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) will have to confront when it presents its next Assessment Report late next year."

The referenced article this quote was taken from:

http://www.spiegel.de/internat...

Another important topic the climate scientist mentions:

"Temperature increases are also very much dependent on clouds, which can both amplify and mitigate the greenhouse effect. For as long as I've been working in this field, for over 30 years, there has unfortunately been very little progress made in the simulation of clouds."

Keep this in mind the next time you hear, "The science is settled."

Comment Re:Rust is pointless because has a garbage collect (Score 1) 161

You're being pedantic.

I'm not. It's a garbage word. There are plenty of garbage words that stick around for no reason other than that people like to use them in place of simpler words.

You mention "style".

You used the word. Why did you use it? Because it's simpler and conversational and came naturally to you. People don't generally go around using the word paradigm.

I also used the word "model". Try this: The object-oriented programming model. Gee, does that not get the point across?

And there's nothing vague about simpler words and more common words versus less common words that have come into vogue. Nobody needs a clarification when you use those simpler words. I'm willing to bet at one point you said, "What the fuck's a paradigm?"

Comment Re:Obligatory (Score 1) 161

It's not you being kind, it's you being a dickhead, because I explicitly acknowledged that they were segfaults "in a very trivial sense".

The point being that when a random segfault occurs in a C/C++ program, it could be anything. If you're lucky, the pointer is null. In Java this is a nuisance issue and usually trivial to track down, a typical example being you forgot to check for null when you pulled something out of a collection or similar.

Comment Re:Obligatory (Score 1) 161

Yes it is lol

Nice job taking what I said out of context, dickhead. You completely ignored the rest of the explanatory text.

I wasn't bashing Java lol. You have some kind of weird defensiveness issues.

Uh huh, sure you weren't.

Memory leaks are surprisingly common in Java as well, because people don't think. If you put something in a list or queue, you need to have a plan for getting it out.

If the list goes out of scope and nothing else points to the object in the list, it gets collected. Yes, you can leak memory in Java. No, it doesn't happen nearly as often as it does in a language like C or C++, and you aren't constantly spending time worrying about memory allocation issues to do trivial code. That to me is the biggest thing.

Comment Re:Rust is pointless because has a garbage collect (Score 1) 161

(Aside: Not quite sure why, but the use of the term "paradigm" multiple times makes me feel slightly icky for some reason. Probably due to it's misuse in business jargon.)

Probably because there's no reason to use such an awkward word in the first place. In this case, notice how you fall into using "style" instead? Also, the vast majority of time, when people use "paradigm", they could replace it with the much more common and simpler word "model" or another simpler term.

Comment Re:Obligatory (Score 1) 161

An NullPointerException is not a segfault or memory corruption, except in a very trivial sense you can consider it a segfault. The difference is night and day between the kind of memory corruption and wild pointers you get with C/C++.

As for memory leaks, yeah, that can still happen, but it isn't very common and they are easy to track down with VM tooling.

Now if you want to bash Java for not tackling serious issues, just look at its threading model, basically "threads and locks", and it's very easy to have threads stomping on data that it shouldn't. That's corruption.

Java also didn't do a good job for resource leaks, meaning things besides memory, like connection handles.

Comment Re:Mann: science by lawsuit (Score 1) 786

He and the universities he was a part of have defended not releasing his private correspondence as a matter of principle for academic freedom. A scientist should be primarily judged on their published work.

Oh really? So you think it isn't fair to judge scientists who set out to "hide the decline" in their email (and spare me, I know exactly what was being hidden)? Who ask other scientists to delete email to avoid a freedom of information request on IPCC work?

These emails came out after a leak. I think it is more than fair to judge these scientists on these criteria. That Mann, using work email for a public university, seeks to hide them from scrutiny, isn't inspiring of trust.

Comment Re:It indicates he may not be critical or worse (Score 1) 786

I think Mann's problem with Steyn is that he said Mann "molested and tortured data in the service of politicized science," in an obvious allusion to the Jerry Sandusky case and that his science was fraudulent. Those are serious accusations against a scientist that could affect his future career if taken seriously.

Mann's a big fucking hypocrite then: http://climateaudit.org/2015/0...

Comment Re:On the other hand... (Score 2) 786

The long-term trend is a failure. The models were supposed to predict surface temperatures. A recent claim that it went into the deep oceans instead doesn't validate the models. It's over ten years and the models have fallen outside of any predicted range.

Also, the big threat with global warming was supposed to be due to water vapor feedback, as opposed to just the forced warming from carbon dioxide. That has yet to be proven.

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