I don't want to do any of those things. I merely stated, if you want to solve one problem, don't introduce legislation for a different one (IE minimum wage to fix lack of phones for the unemployed)
Lack of phones for the unemployed is not the problem I want to solve. The need for the government wellfare programs we both agree ned to be heavily cut back is.
And you are right, people do the math and then collect food stamps instead of working.
And you change that by changing the math. If all they can find is part-time minimum wage work, you make that livable (note that I didn't say comfortable, that was your addition to the discussion). How do you make part-time minimumwage work livable? Increase the minimum wage. Then, we'll be in a position to require a job and one or more dependent children in order to qualify for any wellfare programs; tie that qualification to the job so that losing the job means losing the wellfare benefits. The only exception to both the "must have a job" and "must have dependent children" restrictions would be a disability that legitimately prevents one from working; not just one that makes finding work difficult, but one that bars you from working at all. I can't think of any, off the top of my head, that don't also typically include living in a hospital or care facility, so that should cut down on the "something for nohing" problem.
Minimum wage isn't a government program, it's a law put in place because businesses have shown repeatedly, throughout the history of civilization, that they will have slaves where they're not forced to have employees. Minimum wage has also failed to keep up with inflation for at least the past 50 years, so a massive increase is due in order to correct that.
It used to be trivial to find $15/hr full-time work in a factory and support a family of 3 on a single income, but we've sent all of that work overseas and replaced it with $7.25/hr 16hr/wk shitjobs a single person can't even afford to support themselves on. Do you not agree that this needs to be corrected? We'll, we're not going to convince companies to re-open their factories on American soil (and even if they did, the unions are gone so they'd get away with only offering $7.25/hr 16hr/wk work and nothing would be solved), which leaves increasing the minimum wage as the sole solution if you want to cut back on government wellfare without increasing the prison popularion, which costs considerably more than the wellfare programs you want to cut in the first place.
Otherwise, it seems we're in agreement regarding wellfare programs. Cut the hell out of them.
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