Comment Re:Please skip the next version (Score 1) 218
Please skip making a 3.11 version... just to avoid another flood of ".. for Workgroups" jokes.
Uneven version numbers are development releases. It's never been any different in Gnome.
Please skip making a 3.11 version... just to avoid another flood of ".. for Workgroups" jokes.
Uneven version numbers are development releases. It's never been any different in Gnome.
Amarok never recovered after 2.0.
If Amarok was so bad, why is it so popular?
According to https://www.ohloh.net/p/amarok it has a rating of 4.5/5.0 and "High Activity" with 56 current contributors (400 overall; not even counting translations as they are in another repo (SVN not git)). That's a lot for only a music player.
I guess I wasn't clear. I've had "-semantic-desktop" set globally (in make.conf) all along. I dumped Amarok when it started insisting it wanted kedlibs(+semantic-desktop), and nepomuk (which I refuse to install) as well.
That's broken packaging on Gentoo's side. File a Gentoo bug report.
Yet another example how socialism fails.
You have a weird definition of socialism.
If Fedora "isn't stable enough for anything other then the desktop" then it's not stable enough for the desktop, either. I don't want free reboots on my desktop box while I'm trying to use it.
From my experience Fedora is about as stable as most Ubuntu releases with the distinct difference that Fedora actually gets updated throughout it life time.
So a Google subsidiary can't use Google's latest OS? Lame... I rather get a Nexus instead.
Gnome had the right idea (merging tablet and desktop interfaces)
That's not the right idea. The right idea is to create a set of building blocks that can easily be assembled into very different UI paradigms without compromising the others. KDE's Plasma framework has already been used to create desktop, netbook, tablet, and mediacenter shells.
How funny then that Chrome browser chose GTK....
Chrome only uses GTK for minor stuff like the Open/Save window. The actual Chrome UI is written in Google's own Skia library, not GTK.
I just became the maintainer of a small games project in gnome and I have to say, the lack of (wo)manpower really shows.
Even tough I share the criticism here about GTK, your example does not really mean a lot. In many big FOSS projects small subprojects are driven by maybe just a single developer. It's exactly the same in striving projects like KDE which also has fringe subprojects like some games or screensavers. Heck, recently even two Calligra apps lost their maintainer and nobody could step in.
The KDE philosophy may be fine IF you can throw more or less unlimited resources on it
"Will Stephenson from openSUSE giving a talk on how to make a more lightweight #KDE at #akademy2013 . KLyDE (the optimized version) has a memory footprint of only 119 MB!"
https://plus.google.com/106620870500514995860/posts/GuXFD4wqj3V
Btw, funny how you attempt to prove "KDE philosophy" the Extragear application Digikam that is not even part of mainline KDE.
It was an imminently practical response.
No. The GNU project had proper UI frameworks for years before KDE existed: Gnustep. However it had practically no support from any GNU member. It took KDE to enter the scene and the GNUs suddenly ran wildly around like headless chicken. So instead of deciding to use a proper frameworks set (Gnustep) they chose to chop an image editor apart and rip out its toolkit that was never designed to be a general purpose one.
Whether the developers realize it or not, GIMP, Inkscape and Gnumeric will end up as Qt applications or they'll become irrelevant.
Doubt it. Contributors to OpenOffice/LibreOffice cope with its homegrown VCL toolkit since many years because it's easier than porting everything to Qt.
Great. Then tell me of all the wonderful Qt applications people commonly use. I use GIMP, Inkscape, Gnumeric GTK+ applications quite frequently and have used zero Qt applications so far.
Common people use Skype, VLC, etc. and not Gnumeric.
Gnome sucks. Its a UI made not for normal users but for the designers imaginary friends.
Funny, I never liked the Gnome 2.x UI (which Xfce also mimics) but I like Gnome Shell a lot. I like it second best after Plasma Desktop.
They suck at it? Why? I've been following Vivaldi project since the beginning, and the project management seems nothing but excellent.
Excellent at producing vaporware. They announced the tablet (then called "Spark") 1.5 years ago and nothing ever shipped to consumers.
Considering that Plasma Active runs on off-the-shelf hardware, their project management is hardly good....
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