I already lead you to the water, it's up to you to drink or continue to troll.

For the jackass AC below, I'm nowhere near liberal. Go look at my history of posts, even on this topic, where I was accused numerous times of being a "denier" (that term is still for assholes to use), but I've recently spent significant time reading up on the topic, and have come to the conclusion that there's no logical argument against AGW. If you think you have one, I'd love to hear it.

Yes, because 1 and 1 is eleven.

The problem here is that what's important isn't areas so much as volume. Please read and learn something.
http://www.skepticalscience.co...

I'd like to suggest that you were the obtuse one here. Maybe you'd appreciate more free robo calls, junk in your snail mailbox, etc., because while many (myself included) find this to be a minor annoyance, it's is still an annoyance.

That's a pretty harsh way of looking at it. You can't even get through a public education these days w/o access to a computer. There a lot of senior citizens (my aunts and uncles in their 70s and 80s are all online), who just want to send email, and surf the web. Why the fuck should they have to know what swap space is?

Excellent. Thanks!

Interesting. I've received annual training on this, and never heard of any exemption except for national security purposes. The guide I just looked at also lists that as the only exemption.

Depends. The point is, it's not an apples to apples comparison. It's like claiming that Barry Bonds and Mark McGuire's home run records aren't a lie.

What many in the U.S. don't realize is that what we call bribery is SOP in some countries. Not that it makes it right, or legal, but it may be the only way for a company to do business there. I've witnessed this first hand in a couple places, with local government officials who would just not process paperwork unless you "tip" them.

Well stated. Maybe if I had taken more time to clarify my point, it would have helped my case. When someone says that 4 out of 5 dentists recommend Crest, I'm going to consider the source, and at least do a little homework before buy some. When my mother had spinal surgery a week ago to have four vertebrae fused, all the decisions were left up to me. Am I qualified?...hell no, but I was able to spend enough time researching the surgery (there were options), surgeon, hospital, etc. to help determine what was in her best interest.

When evidence is provided, even if simply referenced, it can be poked, prodded, and validated or not. But I won't fall for an appeal to authority.

There was a similar article in fivethirtyeight.com just a couple days ago with regard to vitamins, and how many of the studies indicating that everyone should be taking a daily multi-vitamin have been improperly executed. And yet, everyone assumes we all should, or that it's "common sense", or that they'll take one just to be on the safe side.

For many years, it was a "good sounding theory" that peptic ulcers were caused by stress or spicy food. It was a consensus, with little evidence, until one man proved them all wrong. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B...

For years, we were all told that eggs were good for you, then we were told that they're bad, and what do you suppose the consensus is now?

So, yes there are certainly many instances where we just have to go with the odds, and what the current conventional wisdom is. But, it also needs to be tempered by a knowledge of what the current state of research is in that area.

This is one of the many examples of why I don't care about consensus opinion. Show us evidence, or go away.

Understood...no blood, no foul. I've spent some time reading links that others have provided, and learning. Maybe it's just me, but I've always questioned authority, at least until I've seen enough evidence to trust a specific person. I'm also curious by nature, and the reading I've done so far has raised more questions, but that's just part of the learning process. I think some topics are important enough that the scientific community needs to take the effort to build public consensus as well. Otherwise you end up with situations like we see with vaccination rates dropping, and this. And certainly, some people like Hawking and Sagan for example, have been very successful at education the masses.

These were previously open international waters, so any nation coming along and claiming them needs to be challenged.

First time I've wanted to actually compliment Mickeysoft on something in years.

Yes, yes, you're clearly able to determine others intentions and unable to supply facts in response to a simple request. Others have succeeded, while you fail miserably. Feel free to continue to toss childish insults, and I'll continue on in search of those who actually know something. Thanks for playing.