Comment Re:*Why* there is too much noise (Score 1) 56
The other change beyond the funding quantity was the prestige of advancement beyond just been invited in for signals support or an archive function for other expert mil and gov work.
Real time work, setting policy was the new upgrade. New systems, contractors, linguistics, networks.
The domestic and international telco networks as they have existed and exist now are not a problem in terms of scale or access for the NSA and GCHQ.
Collect it all has always worked well given the all digital systems and funding.
Bulk collection has never been a problem since the 1930's for the USA. The UK and US did have a few Russian and Korean language issues back in the 1950's due to all the information been collected. That was quickly fixed.
The only question that has existed is what the press and historians understand. The UK view was that no signals collection material was to ever to been seen in any public court setting or commented on. Collect it all would not exist in the UK as public policy. The US is now talking of public lock boxes for all telco use been open to courts and devices sold with gov backdoors, trapdoors to reverse any crypto as used.
Watching the Soviet Union was not never a problem of how or been in need of more equipment. Understanding all US domestic and international calls was never a problem over many decades. The real question was the use of the result (ever more closed court use) or and who in mil/gov gets to set and shape policy.
Who will see the better result?
The classic UK view of letting people just use the telephone and networks as normal while collecting all? The results been used with great care as to never offer any public insight into what was done..
Or the US public talk of gov keys kept for consumer crypto and huge telco databases open to courts over decades? The public fully understanding their new phone/crypto is a tool of the gov/mil as sold.
Real time work, setting policy was the new upgrade. New systems, contractors, linguistics, networks.
The domestic and international telco networks as they have existed and exist now are not a problem in terms of scale or access for the NSA and GCHQ.
Collect it all has always worked well given the all digital systems and funding.
Bulk collection has never been a problem since the 1930's for the USA. The UK and US did have a few Russian and Korean language issues back in the 1950's due to all the information been collected. That was quickly fixed.
The only question that has existed is what the press and historians understand. The UK view was that no signals collection material was to ever to been seen in any public court setting or commented on. Collect it all would not exist in the UK as public policy. The US is now talking of public lock boxes for all telco use been open to courts and devices sold with gov backdoors, trapdoors to reverse any crypto as used.
Watching the Soviet Union was not never a problem of how or been in need of more equipment. Understanding all US domestic and international calls was never a problem over many decades. The real question was the use of the result (ever more closed court use) or and who in mil/gov gets to set and shape policy.
Who will see the better result?
The classic UK view of letting people just use the telephone and networks as normal while collecting all? The results been used with great care as to never offer any public insight into what was done..
Or the US public talk of gov keys kept for consumer crypto and huge telco databases open to courts over decades? The public fully understanding their new phone/crypto is a tool of the gov/mil as sold.