I can't see anyone tolerating that level of discomfort without a really really good reason.

Says "CockMonster"

I can't really tell amongst all the double talk, but I am pretty sure that you backtracked & now agree with me that Apple use netBSD of linux because of political & not technical reasons.

Really, which LCD displays do they supply to Apple?

Apple tried to diversify their supply chain away from Samsung. Sharp are amongst those who made the retina displays for the iPhone 5 (and the mini Ipad)

This would be a really good time for Samsung to put the boot in. Interesting to see if they do anything.

Apple uses NetBSD, probably the best OS for embedded network applications.

*rolls eyes*.

Is that why Cisco uses freely-avaiable netBSD? Why virtually every router manufacturer on the world relies on netBSD OSS code?

netBSD is a great OS, but it's known for portability, not performance. Apple uses it over linux because of publicity & fear-of-theGPL.

Apple & Samsung can sell us non-modifiable devices with locked-down hardware apparently this is supposed to make Linux take over

The vast majority of Samsung ARM devices are modifiable & do not have locked-down hardware. Apple on the other hand does, but I have no idea why you think Apple's locked down devices are going to help Linux take over (wtf have you been smoking?).

People aren't jogging any more?

Of course people are jogging & all the other things that a very small / light media player is good for. But the market for small / light players is vanishing because the number of joggers etc willing to get a dedicated player as well as a smartphone is shrinking.

Of course the iPod Touch is part of the iPod line. And it allows people access to the iOS App Store for much less money than an iPhone.

Yes, as I said in another post, one of the biggest competitors to the iPod is the iPhone. For those who are cost-conscious, android beckons.

Do you mean the competition between the various Apple players?

The biggest competitor to iPods produced by Apple is not another iPod, but the iPhone. Nearly everyone carries a phone, why carry two devices?

More importantly from Apple's POV is the competition from low end android phones. They're the same price as even the cheapest iPods, and offer a whole fuck-ton more functionality to boot.

eh? in media players? what competition?

The competition is not from other dedicated PMPs, but from Android phones. Why buy an ipod when you can get one of the cheap-ass androids for the same price.

(I know, I know, joggers etc like a small light PMP, but its a vanishing market)

i am not suggesting/asking about this because i believe deaf or the hard of hearing have difficulty typing. it seems to me that if we have speech recognition software, why not have actual gesture/hand-shape based language recognition software. that being said, there are numerous people who are much better communicators verbally than they are as typist, hence the still popular phone call apps on phones. Perhaps, there is a similiar percentage of communicators in ASL, or any other signed language, who are much better at communicating through their first language than through the keyboard interface. Fingerspelling words would at least be something that they are familiar on an fluent level and side step the intrusive typing interface. from what i know of the deaf community, they have embraced technology such as ipads and iphones for exactly the reason you suggest, however these devices are still prohibitively costly for most of that community. yet, despite text messaging being clear and easy communication channels, i still get more Purple phone calls from people in the deaf community than i get text messages.

This would be really interesting interface if it had a library of American Sign Language gestures and fingerspelling capabilities.

IIRC it was something along the lines of 50-100ms

My link said 12ms. Do you have a source for your 50-100?

yeah. just like how so-called "agave nectar" is made in almost exactly the same way as evil, evil corn syrup.

Care to elaborate on that? I thought heat / filtration was used for agave syrup production, but a far more complex series of Enzyme conversions were needed for HFCS production.

Disclaimer: I live in a country where cheap sugar & honey are abundant, so I have no pony in this race.

And Canola Oil is the world's first GMO, but somehow that doesn't stop it from showing up in every health food store even though they wouldn't be caught dead with ANY OTHER GMO.

I'm not sure I understand your point. Canola was the first commercial GMO, but unmodified Canolas are still grown.

Do you believe that once someone starts growing a genetically modified variant of a plant that the health food crowd stop eating the non-GM variants of that plant?

Your only choice for this is probably iOS, since Android's latencies are still much much higher than is required for real time audio.

Audio Latency is much better in Jelly Bean, so you're probably better off with Android given how much more hacker-friendly the ecosystem is.

You quoted the GP as "I always suspect racism", when the full context was "For things like that, I always suspect racism"

The GP sounded like a dick, and now so do you.