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Comment Re:Uh, no (Score 1) 503

Oh... But killing PoWs is the whole other crime of war. Torture does not need to end in death to be torture.

The point was that we are not doing anything like what the Japanese did. What they did is undeniably torture. What our CIA did is not even close to what the Japanese did such that they really cannot, in my view, be called the same thing. So, to make a sweeping statement that our version of water boarding is torture based off of what the Japanese did is a logical fallacy. Scaring the living daylight out of someone is not torture.

Besides the media is making it sound like this is a regular thing that the CIA does. It has only been used on three prisoners, and that was back in 2002. Furthermore, the session revealed significant information that saved many lives.

The prisoners were not harmed in any way and were water boarded under medical supervision. Do you hear that? We gave terrorists medical supervision. Do you think the terrorists would have provided medical support after their planned attacks that were thwarted because we water boarded these three individuals?

Comment Re:Uh, no (Score 1) 503

How about we strap you to a board and try it for 10-20 minutes and see if you still don't consider it torture?

According to CIA memos they were only allowed to do two sessions per day lasting no more than two hours each. And in those sessions they were only allowed to water board up to 40 seconds (which they say rarely happened). This could only be done a maximum of six times per two hour session. Meaning that at most the person was water boarded for four minutes out of two hours. Finally, in any 30 day period a prisoner was only allowed to be water boarded on five of those days.

I can hold my breath for forty seconds, and I can certainly do this six times in two hours. Can you?

Comment Re:Uh, no (Score 1) 503

The Japanese used salt water in their water boarding which in and of itself can cause death. http://hnn.us/roundup/entries/60549.html After that if the stomach of the individual became too full of water they would either beat water out of the stomach or jump on the victim. From Wikipedia In this version, interrogation continued during the torture, with the interrogators beating the victim if he did not reply and the victim swallowing water if he opened his mouth to answer or breathe. When the victim could ingest no more water, the interrogators would beat or jump on his distended stomach.

Comment Re:Uh, no (Score 0, Troll) 503

Making people stand, depriving them of sleep, and making them think they are drowning is not torture no matter how much the media wants you to believe it is. Now having your bones broken, having your fingernails ripped off, having people jump on your stomach, or being mutilated ... that's torture.

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