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Comment Re:Conceptually.. (Score 5, Insightful) 196

The kernel can execute ring 0 instructions. Your initrd can't. The difference is that you could construct an appropriately modified hibernation image that booted an arbitrary kernel - or even an entirely separate OS. In that scenario, your kernel is effectively a new bootloader, except unlike the signed bootloaders it'll happily boot an entirely unsigned OS. That's unlikely to end well.

But, conceptually, you're right. Secure Boot doesn't magically make a system secure, but it *is* a vital part of system security - if you can't trust your kernel, any other security you attempt to build is pretty much pointless.

Comment Re:Restricted Boot by definition insecure (Score 1) 210

If you were a serious virus writer you'd already want to use the Microsoft CA to sign your rootkit so you can install it as a signed driver in Windows. Secure Boot moves the vulnerability down the stack, but even now a compromised Microsoft signing key is still massively desirable to virus authors.

Comment Re:So then they're fine with Windows 8 (Score 1) 210

Microsoft have told me that they'll revoke certification for any vendor who doesn't provide the appropriate options. If you have examples of machines that have certification and which don't allow any modification of the key database, let me know so we can find out if they were telling the truth.

Comment Re:What problem does it solve? (Score 2, Informative) 210

BIOS boot sector protection has never prevented writes to the MBR unless you're running DOS - any actual OS uses direct hardware access instead of using the BIOS, and so it can't be blocked. It'd be possible for the BIOS to complain that the MBR's been modified, but it has no way of verifying that the partition boot code or the actual bootloader are still secure. Unsurprisingly, malware authors take advantage of this - https://support.kaspersky.com/viruses/solutions?qid=208280748 has a list of modern bootkits.

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