Agreed. I thought this was "News for Nerds", not "News for 13-year-olds with Down Syndrome".
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Clearly they don't understand very much, because if they did they'd see that censorship is a tool that's very useful to totalitarian regimes, and a dual purpose one to boot: silencing opposing points of view and hiding their own crimes & vices.
Again, I don't disagree with you. But are you really going to stand up and defend the right of the Hutu Power guys running the radio station to broadcast the locations of Tutsi "cockraoches" to the roving machete-rape squads? And if not, then where is the line being drawn between reasonable and unreasonable censorship? Is Lou Dobbs calling for Mexican immigrant concentration camps on FOX News closer to the Hutu Power boys, or closer to Thomas Jefferson? I think it depends on context: if the US were to see an drastic upswing in hate crimes targeting immigrants, I can see how curbing that kind of incitement could be justified. Germany has a very specific context when it comes to white supremacists and neo-Nazis, obviously. I live in Canada, which has much more restrictive hate-speech laws than the US, and yet there seems to be more accountability, transparency, and free discourse up here than in the US (where I grew up), and people are much nicer to each other as well. My primary reason for opposing hate-speech laws in the US is because I know that they would be drafted and enforced to protect specific politically powerful interests, rather than marginalized groups. I really do think that this is an area where the right balance struck by the law depends a lot on context.
However when the website chooses, without compulsion and of its own free will, to favour one party over another that's wrong.
You know what else is wrong? Selling people's personal information and bombarding them with penis enlargement pill ads in exchange for allowing them to send email to their friends.
Here's the bad news: private companies do things that aren't very nice, but not illegal, and actually pretty much inevitable in a capitalist system, all the time. To compare them to the Nazis every time they do things like this is, maybe, not so helpful. It might lead to a certain loss of perspective and make the speaker and listener both worse off for it. That's all I'm saying.
Had Hitler not been imprisoned and seemingly "martyred" for his beliefs, he wouldn't have written Mein Kampf, and the Nazi party, unable to find a martyr to rally behind would slowly fade away
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Agreed. Henceforth, we shall stop imprisoning people who do bad things, lest they become martyrs to the cause for which they were imprisoned, thus creating a fascist movement dedicated to (murder/rape/jaywalking). Indeed, we should instead imprison those who do GOOD things, creating martyrs who will inspire virtue in the populace! And all men shall walk on the water, and swim upon the land. Huzzah!
In other news, your historical counterfactual is ridiculously overstated, as is the argument it tries to support. Look, I'm not an advocate of censorship, but I understand its appeal to Germans, who understand fascism and the cultural forces giving rise to a bit better than, I daresay, you seem to. America today is much closer to fascism than Germany, despite the wonderful (I mean that sincerely) protections for speech afforded by the US constitution.
Note also that this story is not about government censorship, but about some guys running a website that shows you ads and sells your personal information in exchange for letting you talk to your friends and post pictures of your boobs. As The Dude would say: this isn't a First Amendment thing, Walter.
There are plenty of people alive the lived under them and remember a time when openly joining a political party other than the Communists meant jail time.
Dude, totally! And like, someday Germans will get to tell their kid about how joining a party other than the officially sanctioned ones could, like, totally result in not being able to get your Facebook feed updated with official party event invitations! You could only get invitations to events from some other person setting up a non-official facebook group for the party, which meant you wouldn't get the little blue background bar invites in your facebook feed! And sometimes the javascript didn't work right to update your Twitters, so you'd totally have to get it sent to email instead! Dark times, dude, dark times.
I'm sorry, but: do you really not feel that these comparisons are maybe just a little bit silly?
Outlawing thought certainly sounds crazy to me. But I have those "American 1st-Amendment sensibilities"
I won't argue with you, because I don't disagree. But if this is the issue with which people have a problem, then their beef is with German law and politics at a pretty deep level. Germany is much more restrictive about who gets to be a political party than, say, the US. Of course, they can point to this policy as one of the reasons their political discourse -- unlike that of the US -- isn't dominated by white supremacists (Glenn Beck, Strom Thurmond), religious fanatics (Scientologists, Christian Dominionists), and so on. Which, I have to admit, is a pretty appealing upside.
If you have a sufficient sized following and your trying to get into power to improve your country why should you be treated any different than the rest of the political parties?
Here's a hint: they probably don't let white supremacist or neo-Nazi parties sign up for accounts, either. Because expressing those kinds of opinions about how to "improve your country" is illegal in Germany. Which may offend American 1st-Amendment sensibilities, but given Germany's history, I can't say it's such a crazy policy.
So while I agree with you that the Pirate Party deserves to be included, the very broadly inclusive policy you've described would never -- and could never, legally -- fly in Germany.
I hate the way they sell those Gutenberg presses as a loss leader, then gouge you on printing plates and ink refills.
Not to mention that the typesetter they give to run the thing you always tells you you're out of ink when you've still got half a barrel left...
The U.S. government cannot prevent you from sharing particular content online, but the site that you use for hosting the content may.
... because that company is in danger of being sued for copyright infringement, which is a cause of action created by Federal statute and enforced by Federal courts (whose officers are paid with Federal tax dollars). So, the federal government is enforcing a censorship law. I don't see how you've argued around that basic fact.
I agree with you that Youtube is under no obligation to accept videos that infringe copyright, or any videos at all for that matter. But that doesn't mean that federal copyright law isn't acting here to censor Constitutionally protected speech.
The problem is that AP doesn't want to stop Google from indexing them, they just want to be paid more.
Exactly. Like I said in the AP story two days ago:
It's even more ridiculous and pathological than that: the AP is simultaneously whining about how aggregators link to their articles and also about how search engines DON'T link to their articles. This is typical schizophrenia from an industry that is in hysterical denial because the world has changed and their business model no longer works. They can't even articulate what they want; they just want to go back to the way things used to be, when Mommy used to play with them and feed them all day. Embarrassingly infantile.
A friend of mine tells stories about her little brother, who used to hate taking a bath as a little kid, alternating between "I'm freezing!" and "It's burning my skin off!" every few seconds as excuses to try to get out of the tub.
Never test for an error condition you don't know how to handle. -- Steinbach