Don't go into the water in the twlight hours of the day, when long shadows are cast into the water. If you are cut and bleeding get out of the water, people who don't attract sharks to where swimmers are. Don't let dogs in the water near people, they attract sharks with the way they swim and their fear. However possibly the worst thing I can see to do with sharks is when people get in one of those cages and diving gear to attract a shark to them with meat so they can get a thrill. It's a great way to teach them that we are a food source while there is so much pressure on the fishstocks.

I am a qualified lifesaver and a powerfull swimmer. I usually swim where it's deep enough to avoid other dangers, like white water (that suck you under) and shore dumps (that snap your spine like a twig). Surfers look for me because I can see *under* the waves to identify where the sandbars are and good waves will be generated. Unfortunately surfers get territorial about the waves and think they have some right to surf them, with their environmentally destructive little fibreglass boats that they lay on. I've actually had surfers drop in on a wave I caught and if my swim stroke doesn't smash into their board and hurt my hand then it hits them and they think I've punched them. So people don't look after each other because of that attitude.

Unfortunately so many people who go to a beach absolve all responsibility for theirs, and everybody elses, lives onto the life saving crew that are there. I have witnessed some stupid and bad things such as;

A obese woman, with an attitude, confusing her arrogance at thinking she was a powerful swimmer, for the rip that was taking her out to sea. I watched her, struggle for a minute or so as she realised she was in trouble and as the ocean to humbled her. I was off duty and pointed it out to one of my mates who had to take a rescue board out. I took him almost 10 minutes to get her fat ass on that board while the rest of us looked on in fits of laughter. Finally his face was less than 10 cm from her ass crack as he laboured, and I mean laboured, to get her into shore.

A bloke with his (reasonablly large) jet ski, too close to shore. The surf was pretty big. It picked up the jet ski like a toy right in front of me and flung it right at me. If I didn't dive under it, it would have killed me. After the wave I grabbed the JS to control it, he swam over to me and asked me to hold it while he got back on. I told him "fuck you mother fuckker, this is going in to shore, you are going to help me do it or you can fuck off". The crew held him till the police came and charged him with a few things.

A poor asian man, with his family, had waded in the shin deep water on a sand bar. A very beautiful day as the tide came in, totally unaware of the danger. Before anyone had realised it, the sandbank collapsed. His wife and daughter both drowned.

Still hurts, but, a mate who swam out to resue one of the said, selfish surfers who was out in a storm. He rescued the guy, but got taken himself. They found his body almost two weeks later trapped under a rock ledge.

If you come across a seal, penguin, or turtle swimming near you - get the fuck out, a shark is near. Another mate has had a shark come near him when he was surfing and discovered they will bump up against you to see how tough you are. Obviously he was terrified and got out quick.

People are just dumb when it comes to the ocean, they don't take responsibility for their own lives and a duped by beautiful weather into thinking they are ok. I love the ocean, it takes away all of your malice while restoring and humbling you. When I swim in the ocean I realise it can kill me whenever it wants in a variety of ways. Sharks are just one.

Domestic spying on local nationals was forbidden in the agreement, but intelligence gathering on each other was permitted and also intelligence sharing. The agreement was formally called UKUSA, but also known as SIGINT and Echelon. It had been going on for a long time when I read came across it in the '90's. Finally it's common knowledge and people are as apethetic as ever.

It makes a mockery of our "freedom and democracy" in these 5 countries and I weep for what we used to be and have incrementally lost for our temporary security as the frog boils. Countries so insular and xenaphobic that we don't even remember what made us great in the first place. Deep values like freedom of speech, political freedom to gather and protest to change things replaced with vapid symbols, shiney toys in what resembles a secret police state.

Exactly what the nutbag extremists wanted us to do to ourselves.

So do I, however, do you even know what the difference is between natural and enriched radio-isotopes? Are you stupid enough to think that a chemical fire from burning coal will produce plutonium and actually have a greater radionuclide release than the Nuclear industry? Do you think that a coal plant can release, tritium or radio-cobalt for example. Did you even question that statement when it was made and check for yourself? No, you didn't.

This statement is a fiction, produced from the statement "In normal operations a nuclear reactor releases less radioactive waste into the environment than a coal plant" into your statement. Converted to create the fiction that you shill, believing it refers to the entire nuclear industry - it doesn't.

Chernobyl release about 5 tons of pu-239 into the environment and Fukushima released plutonium chloride and oxide. Then there is releases from mining, enrichment and operational releases from reactors every two weeks (check the NRC guidelines for yourself) showing that the original statement itself is only half true.

You are saying that the coal industry is capable of exceeding these releases because you believe a fiction, not because you have checked the facts.

Except that these are the very people that be affected by the consequences of CO2 emmissions.

Thanks for the paper. The problem with the death rate figures comes from the IAEA being able to interdict and censor the WHO's published papers and data. This is blatant politic interference that skews the data preventing the real figures from being exposed. In Chernobyl studies into the aftermath of the accident's effect on thyroid cancer in children, funding for data collection was stopped while the evidence for the true harm was still being collected.

The data that was collected clearly showed the gestation period of the cancer in children exposed to cesium radioisotopes (some 6 years) followed by a dramatic rise in cases (from memory, 25,000 were recorded) before the funding was stopped. This measures only one radioisotope (as a nutrient analogue) with a short half life and no data was collected on other ones like strontium 90, pu-239, cobalt 55 with longer half lives.

Nor does it measure the harm to future generations because, like present measurements, the data does not exist. This doesn't mean that nuclear power causes less deaths, it means the data on actual deaths hasn't been collected.

You've got it. What I don't understand is why nuclear electricity is put in the same basket as coal and gas plants.

Because nuclear industry externalities are less immediate and more severe than coal and gas.

The incidents that Nuclear has gone through in the past 60 years only reinforce my view that it's a safe solution.

I'd suggest that much of the information about what has gone on in the nuclear industry has been subjected to PR spin and political interference to minimize the true situation. One only has to look at the regulatory powers the IAEA has over what the WHO can publish on matters nuclear to see an example.

If given all the fsck-ups that gave us Chernobyl, Fukushima and 3 Mile Island that's all that happened I think that it's pretty much OK.

Radionuclide releases from any source into the environment have consequences that extend beyond our lifetime. These are the most severe of many plant accidents yet the rest of the industry from mining to spent fuel containment *all* release radionuclides. There is nothing OK about releasing materials that cause cancer, failed pregnancies, introduces transgenic disease by altering the genome of life itself in all species including humans.

I'm saying this because coal/thermal have their exhaust pipe problems which affect a much greater percent of the population and hydro is in general an ecological mess that also involves massive population relocation.

If those materials decayed within our generation we may have been excused however, these materials will continue to cause these issues as the different daughter products decay in timeframes lasting hundreds to thousands of generations of humans.

I'm certain that what we have already done (with the existing nuclear industry mess) will make future generations consider us to be the most selfish and sort sighted generations that have ever existed.

If someone asks you to write a .bat file you should tell them to go fork them selves into a background process.

Which is where cygwin comes in. Microsoft sees this and answers it with powershell, which I don't mind actually, and fits in ok with the iterations sh has gone through.

Otherwise you are back to stabbing yourself with a fork.

No, (ambiguous && !precise).

I meant, use the cars to pollinate the flowers

And so ends what was once a good way for ideas to find funding. Trust some asshole to come in and fuck it up for everyone.

Pity yourself, it's an excellent summary of what you are doing now :-)

There's no intelligent debate to be had, or a debate at all. It's just the government violating the highest law of the land, and people who give a shit trying to stop them. They had no moral high ground since the beginning.

The point is, if the situation is dire and serious, the message should be as well.

Whilst that is true, paradoxically, the more dire and serious the message is, the easier for our controlled press outlets to manipulate it into something else, so the less people listen. Perhaps Snowden is just pressing a point in presenting the argument that way to make it, feel, really personal because it is.

When you're pointing out an injustice being committed by the government, you should be trying to get people to think.

You are right, I sense they will think 'EWWWW', however it's a mammoth task getting people to do anything until they understand why its in their own self interest. Slowly the legal framework is put in place, the use of such powers concealed and, sometimes not acted on. People never feel the impact and are dumbed down enough to be apathetic enough to allow more freedoms to be stolen. Look at the silly monkey

The self involved aspects of our own culture works against us as vanity makes so many of us desperately shallow and ignorant. Meanwhile those remaining in our western society who understand what freedoms are being stolen and twisted against us, scream in frustration as democracy is turned into a parody of what was supposed to be. A trapped is only closed when all avenues of escape are.

It would seem though that even in the intelligence agencies there are people saying 'this is gone far enough', recognised whoever is pushing this agenda as a domestic enemy and have been brave enough to stand up to the systemic corruption that is threatening to collapse Western society the same way the USSR was. They are ejected from the machinery.

I just hope that democracy doesn't become the experimental blip in history between monarchies and ogliarchies because we were too afraid and lazy to face the responsibilities of living in one.

Mainly from people like yourself who are so hoplessly inferior to the rest of the normal thinking population I would be need 3/4 of my brain removed to have double your wit. Obviously you are unable to explain whatever point you have to make, even when given an opportunity to do so. I can only gather that you are pointless. So back to 4chan, b/tard/.

Now get the fuck off my lawn.